Doctor Who: Classic or Dud?

Well Belle de Jour's not exactly setting the world on fire.

yeah it's def gonna happen now re Davros and co. (now there's a spin-off...).

no mention of the Children In Need thing? was pretty forgettable.

Davros, classic-or-dud would be a good one to consider. I say dud, apart from in Genesis of the Daleks.

Davros kind of sucks.

Davros? Is the leader of the Daleks some dirty Greek?

Davros such a brilliant villain on paper but crap in practice

and in bed

well DUH

Yeah, Michael Wisher is great in Genesis but the rest are pretty awful. Terry Molloy isn't that bad in Revelation, but he doesn't exactly have that much to do in it.

I heard it was Davros + the Master.

IN BED

guys, no

Do not defile Dan's dreams.

someone I work with is married to a Dr Who writer called p4ul C0rnell.

THAT FUCKING GUY

I mean, he's written some great stories, but he's also written some AMAZINGLY AWFUL ONES that people wank themselves into a frenzy over for no discernable reason (The Shadows of Avalon, AKA "FUCKING TERRIBLE BOOK")

Also you work with someone with a fantastic last name, GG!

yes I have wondered whether it's real or a pseudonym but I only met her once so don't feel I can ask!

(she's written a couple of DW audio books herself)

Grandpoint, i thought paul had married a vicar!

er...? that some obscure reference I don't get? do you know him? his missus did do a theology masters prior to joining us, so maybe that's what you're referring to??

what happens = rose + donna + martha all appear in the same place at titanic, which either creates a paradox or the titanic sinks and all three girls die.

dr looking upset, and then looks up and sees SALLY SPARROW and dr who series becomes the best dr who series ever

oh that could be it. i met her once, she won't recall tho i bet. i knew paul a teeny bit aages ago.

my heart aches for sally sparrow and her worried pie-face

that's one pie face i wouldn't mind eating

p4ul c0rn3ll wrote Human Nature and Father's Day, two of the best ever. I have the book of Human Nature somewhere.

no mention of the Children In Need thing? was pretty forgettable.

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Very little is more enjoyable than Tennant remarking on Davison "wearing a vegetable."

UGH FATHER'S DAY IS AN IRRITATING PIECE OF SHIT

Well okay, it's not that bad, but it is pie-faced twee mooning for a good portion of the time.

Lawrence Miles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P4ul C0rn3ll

(agh I am turning this into RADW circa 1998)

Meh, science fiction doesn't all have to be po-faced aliens with prosthetic foreheads discussing trade tariffs for 28 years.

Although I cannot fault Lawrence Miles, if you overlook how incredibly difficult Henrietta Street is to read.

Ben Aaronovitch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Cornell
Lance Parkin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Cornell
Kate Orman (before she started believing her press)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Cornell
Dave Stone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Cornell
Peter Anghelides >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Cornell
Jonathon Morris >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Cornell

(Paul Cornell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terrence Dicks)

(Also Paul Cornell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dude who wrote The Pit, I can't believe I've forgotten his name)

NEIL PENSWICK

Man, the reaction that book caused! lol

Dueds Kylie Minogue's in the Crimmus santabotlien special!

Jonathan Morris >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terry == Barry

Mark Gatiss (scripts) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Gatiss (that horrible book about #3)

Oh actually some stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Gatiss (scripts)

Everyone else who ever wrote a Doctor Who book >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon de Burgh Miller

Way to break my horizontal layout

Mark Michalowski is missing from this recent discussion.

Also let's not forget Craig Hinton.

I LOVED CRAIG HINTON

Right, there appears to be a very large number of old-skool Who episodes on Veoh and I've been meaning to do some sort of crash course in the first five Doctors for a while now. Which stories should a virtual novice make a beeline for?

(I am assuming that the C Baker/McCoy episodes are not really worth bothering with).

Genesis of the Daleks
Tomb of the Cybermen
Caves of Androzani (apparently; I've not seen it since I was 10)
Pirate Planet (also the Robert Holmes one before it (can't remember what it's called)
Inferno

Top 3 for each Doctor:

The Daleks
The Romans
The Time Meddler

Tomb Of The Cybermen
The Invasion
The War Games

Inferno
The Daemons
The Time Warrior

Genesis Of The Daleks
Terror Of The Zygons
The Seeds Of Doom
Pyramids Of Mars
The Talons Of Weng-Chiang
The Ribos Operation

Black Orchid
Resurrection Of The Daleks
The Caves Of Androzani

(4th Doctor gets twice as many because he was there twice as long. 1st and 2nd constrained by existing episodes)

That'll do nicely :)

YES THE WAR GAMES

(although note The War Games is very long)

(although note The War Games is 10 episodes of bliss)

(although note The Invasion is 8 episodes of bliss too)

For Hartnell I'd add The Ark.

(although note The War Games is 10 episodes of bliss)

O RLY? It does betray its origins as a four-to-six episoder padded up to ten, one reason why the novelisation is so much more enjoyable.