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and yes, we can avoid pubbing -- it isn't like princeton is a big party town!

no trip to princeton is complete without a visit to the annex.

also, RIP PIZZA COLORE.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

If the weather were warmer, I'd say we should picnic at Grounds for Sculpture.

― Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

i wish terrace club were still throwing awesome shows/parties.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

best state song ever?

last wednesday on WFMU they played every single variation of this song (as performed by the chordblenders, natch). eventually they just stopped after the third line where they mention the city, figuring everyone got the idea after about 20 listens of the same song. it was glorious.

i miss princeton. sandwiches at hoagie haven are U+K if jerseyFAP '05 ('06?) gets off the ground.

― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

lets do this SOON.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

Where is the good mexican food in jerz, people?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

http://www.njguido.com/

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

FAJIC (fancy a joey's in clifton?)

― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Where is the good mexican food in jerz, people?

-- Forksclovetofu (forksclovetof...), November 30th, 2005.

El Oaxaqueno in New Brunswick is pretty good if you're looking for something "authentic". They make a mean mole sauce, and there are lots of items in Spanish only on their menu that I'm not sure what they are (one of them is grasshopper tacos).

― Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

i second el oaxaqueno. how about a new brunswick FAP? then we could totally hang out at the menlo park mall, check out the grave in the loews theatre parking lot and other zany central jersey stuff.

i kid.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

yay new brunswick! i've been wanting to go poke my nose around the rutgers campus.

― like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

last time i really hung out in new brunswick, i was a teenager, so my knowledge is limited.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

if Springsteen is guilty of some kind of false populism, the populace sure doesn't seem to see through it.

As usual; not dissimilar from why NJ went big for Reagan in '84 with Born in the USA blaring out of every car.

And where IS Bruce's put-on accent from? Nebraska?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

last time i really hung out in new brunswick, i got bitched out by a drug dealer for taking pictures of my house as i prepared to move out. he thought i was with the police. i was 11

so basically i'm totally down to go

― nervous (cochere), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Ah, New Brunswick. Seven years of my life you took.

It just dawned on me that the "defend the indefensible: new jersey" thread has become the default thread for New Jersey, and how fitting that is.

― Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)

As usual; not dissimilar from why NJ went big for Reagan in '84 with Born in the USA blaring out of every car.

yeah, it's Bruce's fault that Reagan carried 49 states (including Massachusetts), and that he carried Jersey by nearly the exact same percentage he carried Connecticut, Delaware, Ohio and Maine. it had nothing to do with the fact that Reagan came from the Depression generation and sold a populist Republicanism and militaristic cold war.

it's also Springsteen's fault that NJ voted for Reagan in '80, Bush in '88, Ford in '76, and Nixon twice. it was your hated Billy the C who turned it blue.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

BTW, did anyone hear about the Republican congressional snub of the Boss? They actually refused to pass a bill congratulating him on the anniversary of one of his albums, or something along those lines (the sort of bill that gets passed all the time without anyone making a sound). Fancy a Protest?

― Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

gabb posts so that i don't have to :-)

morbius, stick to making yer grand pronunciamentos in the film threads.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:43 (twenty years ago)

the train ride b/w princeton and new brunswick is about 1/2 hour-45 minutes. so doing both towns in one day certainly is not unreasonable :-)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:44 (twenty years ago)

YEEEEAYAH!

― Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

Train? We New Jerseyans have something called the automobile!

― Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)

the NYCers and philadelphian FAPpers may not, though.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

True.

If we do New Brunswick, it'll be a tough call between Oaxaqueno and Efes (the best cheap Turkish I've ever had)

― Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

where is Oaxaqueno, anyway? this must've opened sometime after i graduated -- or it's in one of the "scary" parts of NB (i.e., what passes for scary in NB anyway).

i used to like picken chicken!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

sadly the only "cuisine" i really know in NB is grease trucks. it's been almost four years since i was last there.

if this is done towards the end of this year or on a weekend in january, i am very down for ths, btw.

― joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)

Haha, did you go to Picken Chicken or The Original Picken Chicken? (they were within a block of each other -- different owners) One of them later became Carribean Fried Chicken. And lets not forget Kennedy Fried Chicken.

Weirdly, Oaxaqueno originally had two locations as well -- El Oaxaqueno #2 and El Oaxaqueno #5 (don't ask what happend to 1, 3, and 4). One was on French St. and the other right off Suydam. I think only the Suydam one remains.

― Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)

Aside from the mexican places and Efes, there is somewhat of a dearth of good food in the Brunz. There was briefly a truly fantastic pizza place called NY Pizza but they had the wrong location and hours for a college town and closed within a year or two. Atillio's, a good inexpensive pasta place rumored to be owned by one of the guys on The Sopranos, also closed down within a year or so. As did a really good Asian noodle place on Easton Ave whose name I can't remember. I kinda have a thing for grease trucks chicken kebab though.

― Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

kennedy by journal in JC is so fucking good. at least compared to the atrocity i frequent that goes by the name of "hollywood."

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

I was NOT blaming Springsteen for any prez election outcomes, rather my native state's uncomprehending voters/Bruce fans. My grand pronouncements ... ain't.

Anyone been bearhunting?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

:-( :-( :-( :-(

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/12/06/nyregion/06bear.large1.jpg

― mies van der rohffle (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

no, but i've been crabbing down the shore! (somewhere close to toms river, i don't remember the exact name of the place...seaview?)

― joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

I'm a just a regular guy from Clifton.

I plan on heading over to New Brunswick to check out the Rutgers campus. Anybody have suggestions of cool things to see in NB?

― Darkstone, Friday, 9 December 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, depends on your idea of "cool" I suppose.

1) The Court Tavern is a great shitty place to see great shitty bands.

2) Basement shows are always fun.

3) Do yourself a favor and eat at Efes on Easton Ave.

4) Do your arteries a disservice and get a grease truck sandwich.

5) There's actually a neat little historic colonial house that I think you can tour on Sundays -- it's on Easton Ave in Bucheluch Park.

― *Jazz Douchebag* Berman (Hurting), Friday, 9 December 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...

it appears that the pink champagne motel has a new site

http://www.pinkchampagnemotel.net/

― -- (688), Monday, 28 August 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

oops, that was meant to go on the jersey shore thread.

anyway: what are the most wonderful towns of nj?

― -- (688), Monday, 28 August 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

The further I get from NJ (I'm in Colombia right now) the more I miss it. Well, at least the halcyon days of shopping for comics at the Passaic Book Center/ records at Sound Exchange (most of my purchased vinyl comes from that place. )/ 4 am drunken communal pigouts at the Tick Tock or any other diner on Rt. 46.

Pizza World!
Van Saun Park (as a kid)
Van Saun Park (w/ girlfriend as teenager)
Jobs at the Mall (Garden State/Willowbrook/Paramus Park)

Dan - Cafe Soundz! Whoa. My friend Myke Hideous worked next door at Tu Tone and I'd stop by for a chat then head over to CS. Crazy.

― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I was at a really wonderful wedding in New Jersey two weekends ago in a town that made me actually consider living in suburbia.

― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

what town?

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

We bounced around several different ones but primarily Ridgewood.

― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Ridgewood's nice. Lots of trees and quiet. My cousin's got a house there and I envy her.

― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

The reception was... The Tides Estate? I think that's what it's called? In someplace similarly named to North Caledon? PHAT.

― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

so many interesting-looking mexican restaurants/shops around french st in new brunswick.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

I used to pretty much eat/shop for groceries exclusively on French when I was at Rutgers. But this was back in the early 90's so it's probably changed a bit since? Haven't been back to NB in about 6 years or so. There was a place on French that made amazing enchiladas con mole Oaxaqueno.

Grease Trucks! Easton Ave. had/has a Mexican place that made great deep fried tacos. Though I wouldn't consider eating one of those nowadays.

Planet X still there? Spike, the owner, was a good guy.

― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Grease Trucks...two words I haven't heard in some time..

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

also a ton of south indian restaurants as you come up 27 from princeton. so much stuff, so little time.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, my new favorite place is this crazy all-you-can-eat Japanese seafood restaurant on route 10, by the pelican ski shop. It's HUGE!

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Ridgewood is like...a fake town, the kind you put under the Christmas tree. I kind of hate it, even though I've shopped at the Williams-Sonoma and the cheesy bead store there and the British imports shop near the train. There's no poverty, no undesirables, no unpleasant sights or cosmetically displeasing facades, and the whole display of prosperity makes me nervous.

PLUS I know that Rwood residents start claiming curb space for the 4th of July parade a WHOLE DAY before the event, and the sight of well fed, well kept, perfectly capable people jockeying to set up their folding chairs a little closer than their neighbors...the poverty of spirit just brings me down.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you said there was no poverty? :)

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Head to Paterson for the poverty!

― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's not really a town kind of state, is it? It helps to know people. There are better ones I haven't been to, I'm sure, but I'll point out postage-stamp, perhaps historicized Millburn.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

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