DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

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"The PM talks about the "torture" of watching England lose 4-1 to Germany in the World Cup this summer beside German chancellor Angela Merkel."

Thanks Our PM for making the memory of this game even sweeter

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

"Sorry dudes, we're cutting your benefits now fuck off and run your local library for free" isn't really going to resonate much I fear.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

warsi stupid unelected and revolting

conrad, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

She is thick as pigshit

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

wish that william hague homosexual slur business hadn't fizzled out so quickly, was getting some real value for money out of that w/r/t tory dad

former moderator, please give generously (DG), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

haha, so it turns out that pensioner that cameron praised in his speech is a nutter who thinks that the EU is germany's fourth reich.

joe, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

i mean throw a brick at a tory conference and you'd hit a dozen like him, but even so

joe, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

Hahaha where?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6385433783198588329&hl=en

conrad, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

he's written a book on it:

http://www.silentmajority.co.uk/eurorealist/reports/wordfiles/GERMANY%27S%20FOUR%20REICHS%20by%20Harry%20BECKHOUGH.doc

"Pretending to act for the general good in a community of 'equals', their target is eventually revealed: first an EU Superstate, en route deviously to become a German dominated Dictatorship. We are coerced and invited to yield our sovereignty, ancient rights and hard-won Freedom to become, for the first time in our long history, a vassal state under the German jackboot. WWI and WWII should have taught us the brutal German reality."

think the telegraph was the first to google him.

joe, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

LOL Tories. Isn't Andy Coulson paid handsomely to stop this sort of thing happening?

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

I see the BBC has the "your country needs you" stance while holding Sam, pic. on the front page of the news website.

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

Hahaha that's exactly the sort of thing that would happen to Malcolm Tucker.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

For God's sake, don't let them reproduce

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 October 2010 08:27 (fifteen years ago)

Putting the N into 'cuts' there.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 October 2010 08:36 (fifteen years ago)

A new meaningless buzzword is sweeping the fringe meetings of the Conservative Party conference. Move over 'stakeholder', 'partnership', 'connectivity' and 'silo' your time has passed. Any self-respecting policy wonk now aims for 'goal congruence', the translation of which is "to move together towards the same point".

Sources tell me of an incident which sounds as if it is straight from the pages of Yes Minister. A high-profile Tory cabinet minister apparently has his own ministerial toilet next to his Whitehall office. His civil servants are quite insistent that only the Secretary of State should use the Secretary of State's toilet. When a special adviser (who is not in the civil service) had the temerity to "use the facilities" his actions were immediately reported to his boss by a departmental tell-tale. The cabinet minister was nonplussed.

The Conservative Party press office has handed out 'goodie bags' full of 'joke gifts' for the journalists covering the conference. The bag includes 'Ed Miliband's Detailed Plan For Reducing The Deficit' which, you guessed it, is a blank notebook of paper. The have also been distributed red stress balls which have Ed Miliband's face on the side and the words 'Red Ed, The Unions' Squeeze'. The fun just never stops.

The main conference stage in Birmingham's Symphony Hall has been laid out in such a way that camera shots of the main speakers make it appear as if they are speaking in front of a giant Argentinean flag. That would not have happened in Maggie's day.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 7 October 2010 08:40 (fifteen years ago)

The main conference stage in Birmingham's Symphony Hall has been laid out in such a way that camera shots of the main speakers make it appear as if they are speaking in front of a giant Argentinean flag. That would not have happened in Maggie's day.

Chilean or South African flag would have done in Maggie's day.

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 October 2010 08:54 (fifteen years ago)

For God's sake, don't let them reproduce

― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:27 (48 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm not going to go as far as googling to research this but i'm going to assume that hunt was one of the majority of tories shooting to reduce the termination time limit to sixteen or twenty weeks a couple of years ago.

FORTIFIED STEAMED VEGETABLE BOWL (schlump), Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:17 (fifteen years ago)

(In May 2008 in the abortion amendments to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill (now Act), Jeremy Hunt voted for the abortion time limit to be lowered to 12 weeks against scientific and medical consensus which is currently 24 weeks[4]. After four separate parliamentary votes on varying time limits, the majority of MPs voted to keep the abortion time limit at 24 weeks, in keeping with scientific and medical consensus, hence no abortion amendments were added to the bill. Hunt also voted on the same date to reduce to 16, and then 22 weeks as subsequent votes were defeated.)

FORTIFIED STEAMED VEGETABLE BOWL (schlump), Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:18 (fifteen years ago)

12 weeks

In May 2008 in the abortion amendments to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill (now Act), Jeremy Hunt voted for the abortion time limit to be lowered to 12 weeks against scientific and medical consensus which is currently 24 weeks[4]. After four separate parliamentary votes on varying time limits, the majority of MPs voted to keep the abortion time limit at 24 weeks, in keeping with scientific and medical consensus, hence no abortion amendments were added to the bill. Hunt also voted on the same date to reduce to 16, and then 22 weeks as subsequent votes were defeated.

http://skeptical-voter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Jeremy_Hunt

san te cross (onimo), Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:20 (fifteen years ago)

or what schlump said already :)

san te cross (onimo), Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:21 (fifteen years ago)

I presume he's thinking poor people will get quicker abortions if they're not getting any extra money for giving birth.

san te cross (onimo), Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:22 (fifteen years ago)

That speech isn't really going to go down well with Catholic families...

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:22 (fifteen years ago)

Not at all disturbing to see on the Telegraph's front page:

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Oct/Week1/15753609.jpg

James Mitchell, Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:27 (fifteen years ago)

I WANT TO BE CALLED THE DEFENDER OF NATURE would have made a better headline.

FORTIFIED STEAMED VEGETABLE BOWL (schlump), Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

Jesus, what an embarassment that speech was

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

... he's Prime Minister you know

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

Clegg won the cringeworthy speech race by an absolute mile. "I am a hop and a skip from Cameron's office" is still painful.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:41 (fifteen years ago)

Why not just come out and say "I am his bitch"?

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:41 (fifteen years ago)

"It takes two", "Your country needs you"

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:44 (fifteen years ago)

In these austere times you don't want to waste money writing new slogans.

san te cross (onimo), Thursday, 7 October 2010 10:07 (fifteen years ago)

I don't get this "your country needs you" thing. People have been doing their jobs and paying taxes all along. And falling in love and getting sacked and paying traffic fines. And then bankers drive the economy off a fucking cliff. And now it's apparently our job to save the country, rather than the banks who created this mess or the government that enabled them. I realise I could have replaced all of the preceding with the word "CUNTS" and you would all know exactly what I meant, i just wanted to get that off my chest.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 October 2010 10:14 (fifteen years ago)

^^^^^^^^^^^^cosign x 1000000000000

are you robot? (suzy), Thursday, 7 October 2010 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

He's trying to tap into some sort of Blitz spirit false memory - I'm not sure it'll really work but a significant amount of the public and the media lap that shit up.

The Blitz also = pre-welfare state, of course. Everyone pulled together, didn't rely on the state to do it for them, just forget about that big war thing that was happening at the same time.

It's all bollocks obviously.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 October 2010 10:35 (fifteen years ago)

has anybody ever done a decent analysis of the true cost to the economy? like base the cost/benefits to the economy separated into the following groups?

- bankers
- unemployed people (some of whom bankers?)
- hedge fund people
- tax dodgers
- benefit cheats
- single parents
- SCROUNGERS
- children
- foreigners
- drug users
- the labour government
- cancer

and draw a pie chart and then we can all be angry about the things that costed the most and build our big society upon?

HOOS' THE BOSS (ken c), Thursday, 7 October 2010 10:45 (fifteen years ago)

a significant amount of the public and the media lap that shit up

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Anyway, last refuge of scoundrels/ politicians/ twats and all that...

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 October 2010 10:51 (fifteen years ago)

This is the most incisive thing I've read on the child benefit row. Particularly framing the "middle classes" on £44k as the people with some of the money but very little of the power.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 October 2010 10:54 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11490294

TAX ON CATHOLICS

emil.y, Thursday, 7 October 2010 11:05 (fifteen years ago)

Sam Cam seems to have sat in some paint there.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 October 2010 12:01 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11484352

former moderator, please give generously (DG), Thursday, 7 October 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

has anybody ever done a decent analysis of the true cost to the economy? like base the cost/benefits to the economy separated into the following groups?

- bankers
- unemployed people (some of whom bankers?)
- hedge fund people
- tax dodgers
- benefit cheats
- single parents
- SCROUNGERS
- children
- foreigners
- drug users
- the labour government
- cancer

and draw a pie chart and then we can all be angry about the things that costed the most and build our big society upon?

not forgetting illegal wars

mmmm, Thursday, 7 October 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

"All in this together"

The fantastically expensive bottle of wine that could cause Team Cameron heartburn
Michael White guardian.co.uk

•  What will be the abiding image of the 2010 Conservative conference? The row over child benefit? David Cameron's triumphant platform wave? Or might it be a very expensive bottle of wine? In the media uproar over benefit cuts the tiny headline that must have caused Team Cameron most heartburn was "Forget the crisis, open the Petrus". In fewer than 100 words the Telegraph told party activists Cameron had attended an "election thank you" dinner at Simpsons, a fancy Birmingham restaurant. Hosted by the über-rich outgoing party treasurer Michael Spencer, it was attended by just 40 people. But one them blabbed a fatal detail. The leadership, which this week raised the price of white cider and clobbered £45k families, quaffed heroic quantities of Chateau Petrus, one of the great Bordeaux reds.

• Avoiding triumphalist gaffes like this is what street-smart tabloid ruffians like Andy Coulson and Alastair Campbell are hired to do. That's why champagne receptions have been banned in Brum. Recession-hit voters may never have heard of Petrus, but they do realise that at £1,000 a bottle (the Torygraph's estimate) it's not white cider. The Mail, which also got the story (so it was definitely a malicious leak), puts the mark-up at £1,800. Wine buffs say a vintage 2000 Petrus actually costs £3,000, plus duty and carriage – unless billionaire Spencer or the restaurant were stiffed by Petrus fraudsters (they do exist). Either way it is a Marie Antoinette moment that Ed Miliband, himself a half-of-bitter puritan, will be eager to make famous.

prolego, Thursday, 7 October 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

Thank fuck some Tories drank expensive booze, the half-of-bitter working class Labour Party shd be able to murder them over this.

You used to be my homeopath (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 October 2010 01:41 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/politics/scots-tory-election-candidates-under-fire-for-insults-1.1059888

A Tory candidate for next year’s Scottish Parliament elections has sneered at children’s carers, saying they looked like “the great unwashed”.

Colin McGavigan, a candidate for Clydesdale, South Lanarkshire, used his account on the Twitter social networking site to publicise the insult. He said: “Why do the carers look like the great unwashed. They’re supposed to be carers not warders.”

His gaffe emerged hours after another Tory, Ivor Tiefenbrun, quit as candidate for Maryhill and Springburn, Glasgow, after claims he called Scots “thick” for disliking Margaret Thatcher.

san te cross (onimo), Friday, 8 October 2010 09:13 (fifteen years ago)

On one level "lol Tories", on another lever I'm pretty sure it wouldn't take v. much digging to find a thousand pigthick classist pronouncements from minor Labour functionaries either.

You used to be my homeopath (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 October 2010 09:17 (fifteen years ago)

I think there was a Labour candidate binned last year for some drunken twittering.

san te cross (onimo), Friday, 8 October 2010 09:23 (fifteen years ago)

yeah whereas in the Tories you get promoted for this shit

You used to be my homeopath (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 October 2010 09:27 (fifteen years ago)

I think their Tories send their most idiotic candidates to Scotland in much the same way that the Catholic Church sent its worst paedophile priests to Africa.

Matt DC, Friday, 8 October 2010 09:29 (fifteen years ago)

Labour guy Stuart McLennan was this year, just before the election.

He described fellow Labour Party Member, MP, Diane Abbott as "a f****** idiot".
In one post the 24-year-old complained of being in a pub full of "depressed teuchters" then poked fun at elderly voters by branding them "bloody coffin dodgers".

san te cross (onimo), Friday, 8 October 2010 09:31 (fifteen years ago)

xpost

And the Mormons send their most ill-favoured missionaries to Hull, apparently.

You used to be my homeopath (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 October 2010 09:32 (fifteen years ago)


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