Yeah, I was gonna say.
― http://tinyurl.com/hommphommp (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 4 October 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
also BEAR FACE
― she's one intense bitch, she rides a unicycle (arby's), Monday, 4 October 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link
book is out of print in the uk ;_;
This is in Ireland granted but i've seen plenty of copies of the 2005 reissues of Portis's novels in second-hand bookshops.
― Number None, Monday, 4 October 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
God, everything about now sucks ... so ... bad!
ok, 1975-91 was pretty bad too, especially the pop music
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link
That's our Morbs!
― No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Hmm, and yet the western was mostly nascent during that time period. If only directors could've found a way to work in some crack and AIDS metaphors into Monument Valley horse operas.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 5 October 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
what about the Reagan White House?
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Some great Cliffnotes on Fort Smith, the Indian Territory and facts the Coen Bros are using to shape their film.
― http://tinyurl.com/koalalala (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 18 November 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
wow, thats a great read! thanks! holky ufuk im excited for this!!!!!! rrraAGHGUHHGHHGHGH *tears shirt off and screams*
― Onigaga (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 18 November 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Early buzz is extremely positive http://thefilmstage.com/2010/11/30/early-buzz-for-true-grit-a-new-coen-bros-classic/
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Saturday, 4 December 2010 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Is anyone really anticipating? The trailer was more Bridges in grumpy mode.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 December 2010 13:50 (thirteen years ago) link
are you kidding im anticipating the balls outta this
couldnt u say the original was john wayne in grumpy mode??? it still owned!
also i get the feeling that the girl playing mattie ross could end up stealing this, she looks great in the trailers
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 4 December 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Never seen the original -- it looks, well, like the movie for which John Wayne won his Oscar.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 December 2010 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link
the original's awesome! the source material's really underrated, lots of cool moments and cracking dialogue...
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 4 December 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll see it, because I see most Coen films--well above half, anyway. But the idea that the guys who made Miller's Crossing, Fargo, and No Country for Old Men felt it necessary to revisit a popular, not-seriously-regarded John Wayne film (which, in fairness, I've never seen) is not all that encouraging to me. If nothing else, I'm sure it'll be better than Scorsese's Cape Fear remake.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
It's on my Netflix queue.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 December 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd probably recommend the book first... the movie's pretty watered down though still beloved for the elements it does retain... since Cape Fear was brought up, that material is a lot less strong and it's the kind of thing that succeeds because of Mitchum and some moody photography, but there are a lot of actors who could knock Rooster Cogburn out of the park because it's such a great part and its such an awesome story... imo...
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 4 December 2010 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
well, mattie ross is really The Great Part but w/e
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 4 December 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
anyone not anticipating this is nutso
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
John Wayne pretty much gives a comedy performance in the first film. (I know you ppl who will never see it will say that's probably unintentional cuz u know he was a Republican moron and not one of the great American stars blah blah.)
anyway, had no time to read the book, seeing this Tuesday.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 December 2010 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Wayne, at his best (The Searchers, Red River), was as good as almost anybody; my own post above wasn't intended to imply otherwise. I just always assumed, perhaps unfairly, that Red River: True Grit = Godfather II: Scent of a Woman (which I also haven't seen...I make a lot of assumptions).
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
But the idea that the guys who made Miller's Crossing, Fargo, and No Country for Old Men felt it necessary to revisit a popular, not-seriously-regarded John Wayne film (which, in fairness, I've never seen
Don't understand why people can't get their heads round the fact that this is simply another adaptation of the book, not a remake of the John Wayne movie
― Number None, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
cuz if they're too lazy to watch a john wayne movie they're sure as fuck not about to read some book
― balls, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe they just heard abt it and thought that sounds good is all
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
this is simply another adaptation of the book, not a remake of the John Wayne movie
That's a good point. Again, I don't know either book or film, but: if they're putting the Wayne film aside and going back to the book, and if the book has lots of elements that the Wayne film missed, then remaking it would seem justified. There's some precedent I'm trying to remember, where somebody got it right the second time, but I can't come up with the title. (There are probably a number of precedents.)
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
― clemenza, Saturday, December 4, 2010 11:19 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark
it aint red river, but yeah that's pretty unfair. im amazed how many people havent seen it, did you guys not have TBS when you were kids? i think its more like... carlito's way, idk.
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
their justification for making it was prob they liked the work and thought they could make a good movie out of it im guessing
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
everything i've heard from folks who have seen it is that it owns
― omar little, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I think there's been a number of times where something was adapted once, then adapted again with the aim of being more true to the material
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
yaaaaa
It is weird that I've never seen True Grit. Possibly I saw it at a drive-in as a kid, but if so, I don't remember. I guess I've always stayed away because 1) Wayne's best-actor award is usually singled out as Exhibit #1 in the career-achievement category of undeserved Academy Awards (I'm a huge Midnight Cowboy fan...), and 2) it makes me think of the word "rollicking," and that's not my favorite kind of film.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
BATMAN BEGINSTHE INCREDIBLE HULKSPIDERMANSSTAR TREK
― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
clemenza, you may be over thinking this
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow, that's what someone said to me on the Woody Allen thread the other day...for someone who doesn't do a great deal of serious thinking, you folks sure do think I do a lot of thinking!
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
quantity/quality
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
let go
― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Now, don't get me mad--I'm pretty good at nasty if the right button's pushed.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Coen Brothers and Roger Deakins are making a movie so who cares what it's based on or remaking or adapted from.
― Gukbe, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.ba-services.co.uk/Push%20Button%20Link.gif
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Big cartoon hand as metaphor for "Sorry for saying something so silly" noted.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah thats how i always note that
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyway, take a step back, Yojimbo. I began by expressing skepticism that this project was a good idea, always making my assumptions clear along the way; conceded what I thought was a very good point by Number None; then tried to honestly explain why I've never seen the original. At what magical point did I begin "over-thinking"? That seems to be a very fluid line around here.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
thats just cr?my bein cr?my bro, dont take it personal
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
its a v fuiud line
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i read it that way too, at first
― Princess TamTam, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah, acronyms...could it be at all possible that you might under-thinking a little?
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
unpossible
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay--we make the peace over a well-placed Ralph Wiggum quote. Touche.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
There's some precedent I'm trying to remember, where somebody got it right the second time, but I can't come up with the title.
Huston-Bogart was the THIRD version of The Maltese Falcon.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 December 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
That fits for sure, but it wasn't the one I was thinking of...I don't know. I love Michael Radford's 1984, but I haven't seen the '50s version and can't compare them. I know that Radford stayed fairly true to the novel, and I'm assuming (more assumptions) that he stayed truer than the earlier film.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 December 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link