Banksy C/D

Hah - hoaxed ya!

i wrote on the netflix thread that Exit... is like a mash-up of Borat and that Joaquin Phoenix hip-hop doc. It's like a lesser Chris Guest film for people who were late on street art. Still brought a couple lolz.

Not sure who 'the joke' is on in this, i dont think its on anyone. All the people lined up outside his opening show? They got to be seen at a huge art event. The people who think they are buying from a real street artist? I would say all the footage of this guy following street artists for years is proof of his experience in the field.

people who think mr. brainwash is "fake" are trippin

when I have a gallery show that I will throw feces at a fan to let people know that "the sh*t is hitting the fan." I will also ride into the gallery on a very high horse. Then I will ascend an actual ivory tower which I will invite Banksy to deface.

I still wonder if I can get a grant to do this.

Not sure who 'the joke' is on in this, i dont think its on anyone. All the people lined up outside his opening show? They got to be seen at a huge art event. The people who think they are buying from a real street artist? I would say all the footage of this guy following street artists for years is proof of his experience in the field.

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

"All the people lined up outside his opening show? They got to be seen at a huge art event."

well, not really

people who think mr. brainwash is "fake" are trippin

― u aint messin w/ my dengue (gr8080), Thursday, December 16, 2010 4:41 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

has there been any definitive news abt wtf exactly was goin on in this movie which was good despite the fact that street art is the worst shit

It's like a lesser Chris Guest film for people who were late on street art. Still brought a couple lolz.

― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, December 15, 2010 8:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

steve shasta when did u get in on the street art scene

re: MBW: my friend "always sees him" when she goes out in LA, especially art openings etc

just cause hes a real guy doesnt mean hes totally a real guy, some parts seemed realer than others

has there been any definitive news abt wtf exactly was goin on in this movie which was good despite the fact that street art is the worst shit

― ice cr?m, Friday, December 17, 2010 12:25 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i <3'd the film because i had no idea if MBW was real, because im not into street art, because it's shit

if i'd known anything about him it wouldn't have worked as well

he does seem *so* derivative that it's hard to believe he's really 100% real

i can confirm that he is an actual human being

Everyone in LA personally knows and loves Mr. Brainwash (especially people like myself, Jeff and Spencer who go to art openings). It's not our fault if our city is too real for y'all to handle.

the part that seemed most suspicious to me was the clip of the movie he made being all jump cuts of car crashes and shit, it was just too lol

also banskey and faireys smdh codas seemed pretty canned

The most unreal part of this movie was when they showed little clips of MBW's documentary and it was all super fast editing and really intense sound design. Sort of looked too well put together to be by someone who had 'no idea how to make videos'.

Yeah ice cr?m OTM

...or am i

also banskey and faireys smdh codas seemed pretty canned

― ice cr?m, Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:38 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

^^hated this part. nearly ruined it for me

also banskey and faireys smdh codas seemed pretty canned

― ice cr?m, Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:38 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think this is what made me think that mr brainwash was not totally real

that part seemed pretty condescending. like "you can be in our club but DONT REALLY be in our club"

they seemed canned but it was kinda staged rueful lols that i thought worked pretty well

it did seem to take rather for granted that there was a huge gulf between his shit and their shit, which is questionable

eh their is pretty obvs better imo

which is why wouldnt it be funny if they created all mbw work and then complained abt it sucking

well i p much h8 fairey so

the level of precision in his designs is pretty much unmatched imo, overall steez is k lame tho

this was entertaining. i remember seeing an episode of Carson Daly's late night show a year or two back where he's cluein' bros in on hot new shit around town and it was about MBW.

it did seem to take rather for granted that there was a huge gulf between his shit and their shit, which is questionable

― zvookster, Friday, December 17, 2010 1:31 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

otm, but i think the film allows you to think this -- the film isn't formally authored by banksy and the joke could be partly on him and his narcissism-of-small-diffs air of superiority over MBW.

the huge gulf between quality of respective works is one thing what made people wonder re authenticity

mbw's work is cryingly awful, even in comparison

true

lot of the big street art shit is pretty corny (no Banksy fan), but the MBW stuff is so next-level. like a Target co-opt.

This doc is great, on so many levels. Assuming it's all legit - and given the parties involved, that's a big assumption - the joke's either on:

1) Fairey and Banksy, for arrogantly allowing MBW all those ride-alongs, and then being backed into the position of either accepting him as an equal (despite superficial differences) or dismissing him as an imitation (and thus devaluing their own work)

2) The fools lining up for MBW's faux street art

3) Everyone assuming the movie isn't just an elaborate Banksy meta-prank, which is not out of the realm of possibility (it is branded "A Banksy Film," after all)

4) Anyone who has ever assigned an arbitrary value to a work of art, ever.

think it might be 2-4 tbh

i dunno i'm not remembering it perfectly but i really thought there was an obvious "oh snap" moment when it seemed clear-ish that something puckish was going on

mbw's work is cryingly awful, even in comparison

― ice cr?m, Friday, December 17, 2010 5:04 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

I would love an Elvis w Fischer Price Machine Gun poster! Plus some of those sculptures he did with random Star Wars references were pretty funny. I mean, it's not SMASH CAPITALISM or OBEY BIG BROTHER but it has its own appeal.

i think josh's #1 is correct, but i think that that is intentional, that banksy WANTS you to think the joke's on him

i think the film allows you to think this

i agree with this yeah, that's one of the questions it's presenting u with

I would love an Elvis w Fischer Price Machine Gun poster! Plus some of those sculptures he did with random Star Wars references were pretty funny. I mean, it's not SMASH CAPITALISM or OBEY BIG BROTHER but it has its own appeal.

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, December 17, 2010 6:58 AM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^very important post

"that banksy WANTS you to think the joke's on him"

Or at least allow that it might be a possibility. I loved this movie btw.

i watched this twice in a row last night. the second time shepard and banksy's comments did seem kind of canned which made me suspect something, but i'm still not sure.

4) Anyone who has ever assigned an arbitrary value to a work of art, ever.

that scene where MBW is like, "18 thousand....24 thousand" is pretty funny.

I'm not sure what is real and what isn't. A lot of the archival footage seemed pretty real, MBW looks younger, all the artists look younger, it certainly seems likely that this stuff was filmed over a course of years. If Banksy set MBW up at the end, I say, that's pretty good.

"i brainwash.......you face."

i love how bansky stans and banksy haters all ride for this movie

why becuase its intresting

what a promotional tool for a fucking tool this is. destroy.

Sicinski:

http://academichack.net/reviewsMay2010.htm#Exit

he is SUCH a douche, could not get through first par

it's really not good enough to say 'i have studied art history therefore i'm right'

that's not what he said, but I can see how a douche could think so

that's exactly what he said, though i can see that getting through this long patch of heavy-handed sarcasm would be a chore:

It seems that my academic background in art history and visual culture has resulted in my inability to "properly" enjoy certain art-centered documentaries aimed at more mainstream audiences, my specialized knowledge placing my reactions outside the mainstream of both popular and critical reception. I, being the naive nerdboy that I am, truly believed down to the very bottom of my pocket protector that my unique perspective on pictures like My Kid Could Paint That or Sketches of Frank Gehry might prove valuable, rather than nitpicky and uselessly outlying. But we scholarly types are famous for living in a haze of blinkered privilege, oblivious to just how feckless we really are to those around us. Sadly, though, if there's anything that characterizes academics even more than total irrelevance in the Real World of hot-dog and popcorn consumption, it's our tragic inability to change. You don't just spend 10+ years shinnying up an ivory tower, forgetting how to think like a regular feller, and then go back to breezy watercooler chat as the need presents itself. That'd be like trying to forget how to tie your shoes. Except, having your shoes tied is very helpful, so it's kind of the other way around. So anyway, you have been warned. This review finds fault with the Banksy film on the basis of my own specialized knowledge of the visual arts. We're both just going to have to deal with it.

well, you can deal with it, i'm audi-five.

mebbe u shd address what he actually said abt the topic, but hey it's enrique

Make no mistake: this is not just a quibble, or asking Exit to be a different film that it is.
uhm yes it is

second para is "the filmmaker doesn't come off as a cool person ergo this is not a good film", third is "i want a different film"