REVEALED-THE ILX TOP 75 FILMS OF THE 1950s

Right you are about Jean Hagen, though I think you'll forgive my confusion:

'If the subject of movie dubbing is confusing to some trying to connect who is who, then what about the strange set-up connected with the classic MGM musical Singin’ in the Rain (1952)? This merry mix-up of real life dubbing was addressed in Ray Hagen’s article on Jean Hagen in Film Fan Monthly (December 1968): "In the film, Debbie Reynolds has been hired to re-dub Hagen’s dialogue and songs in the latter’s first talking picture. We see the process being done in a shot of Reynolds ... matching her dialogue to Hagen’s and synchronizing it while watching a scene from the film. But the voice that is used to replace Hagen’s shrill, piercing one is not Reynolds’ but Hagen’s own quite lovely natural voice—meaning that Jean Hagen dubs Debbie Reynolds’ dubbing Jean Hagen! To further confuse matters, the voice we hear as Hagen mimes "Would You?", supposedly supplied by Reynolds, is that of yet a third girl ... [Betty Royce]". Confusing? Well, there’s more. Although Debbie sang in the movie, notably the title tune (dubbing Hagen!), Debbie herself is dubbed again by Betty Royce in her duet with Gene Kelly "You Are My Lucky Star."

'Like Debbie Reynolds, other actresses or singers who were quite able to sing their own songs were still dubbed. One reason was money; if a studio had a music track but the vocalist who recorded it was unable to film, they just got someone else to lip sync the song on the screen.'

http://www.classicimages.com/past_issues/view/?x=/1998/november98/idibthee.html

So that is Reynolds singing "Singin' in the Rain"...

.. or Gene!

Yes, that's Reynolds on the title tune. And I've heard both Betty Noyes and Betty Royce but I believe the former is the correct name.

Yes, Betty Noyes!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0637529/

I'm sorry to perpetrate two errors in one thread!

I mean perpetuate. I'll go soak my head.

I mean, I'm an auteurist too and all, but even I recognize Carrie and Dressed to Kill as among De Palma's best films.

I don't think I'm an auteurist, and Femme Fatale is head and shoulders above those two. (The second half of DtK is kind of appalling.)

I'm an incorrigible auteurist and I think Femme Fatale is his best film.

xpost Oh pshaw, Pete. And again, I really loved your blurbs.

You'd really have to be an auteurist to like Femme Fatale. No two ways about that in my opinion.

or a Rebecca Romijn-Stamos fan.

Actually I have no clue what the argument is about. Just filling in the blanks.

Watched Vertigo for the first time last night, thanks to this poll. And I loved it, well done ILX.

Mission Accomplished

The latest Cahiers all-time list puts our #2 ahead of our #1. (also, no Brit films in their top 100)

http://www.cahiersducinema.com/article1337.html

This was maybe the best reveal thread. Or just the gayest.

Everyone's in character and it just works.

Really enjoyed reading this thread...

Still love that Morbs, one of ILX's two foremost anti-gay marriage advocates, is so in love with Father of the Bride.

nothing disconnective there -- I love Paris Is Burning and am still pretty dragphobic.

(also, FoB is pretty ambivalent at best about marriage)

(ie, Vincente Minnelli would've only favored gay marriage to Judy Garland)

Yep, '50s still a dark period in American history.

We were all in tip-top form here.

Tracy has a nightmare in FoB! you should watch it. xp

Kevin thread's late-innings MVP

Kevin was hilarious.

I look for any opportunity to revive my Wilder beef with Morbs.

Oh look, even he likes that movie that got turned into a Steve Martin Short movie.

33. Father of The Bride – Along with Minnelli’s even more frightening The Long, Long Trailer (which I forgot to nominate), this film is the reason why we cannot determine genre by audience reaction alone.

I still can't sit through Shane, On the Beach, Rebel Without a Cause.

Peck is a case study for the effects of exposure to nuclear radiation.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:49 PM

3 Kurosawas in the top 20 seems to me the poll's biggest overreaction. On the whole, these film poll results were ILX's best.

I still can't sit through Rebel Without a Cause.

^not gay

Well, no, I commit homosexual acts.

Wish I'd been posting regularly then. My top 5 would be Sweet Smell of Success, On the Waterfront, The 400 Blows, The Apu Trilogy, and Paths of Glory; after that, Rear Window, Night of the Hunter, The Killing, maybe The Ten Commandments (absurd, I know), and something else--A Face in the Crowd and The Harder They Fall come to mind. Mostly predictable stuff.

I missed the first 20 minutes or so, but watched most of The Browning Version (Asquith, 1951) last night...surprisingly intense! Redgrave was great, and I really wanted to push Crocker-Harris' wife into traffic. Sort of an English Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?

Wish I'd been posting regularly then. My top 5 would be Sweet Smell of Success, On the Waterfront, The 400 Blows, The Apu Trilogy, and Paths of Glory; after that, Rear Window, Night of the Hunter, The Killing, maybe The Ten Commandments (absurd, I know), and something else--A Face in the Crowd and The Harder They Fall come to mind. Mostly predictable stuff.

― clemenza, Wednesday, September 7, 2011 9:48 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post

You didn't vote? I thought you had, but the email records are long gone so I have no proof. I do know you came out for the 60s one (and IIRC posted on the thread too).

I didn't start posting regularly till April 2009, so I missed this by a few months. Depending upon how it was scored, I might have moved Night of the Hunter into first.

A call to re-evaluate Stanley Kramer and On the Beach

http://filmint.nu/?p=5264

(i've never seen more than a few minutes of it btw)

anyone ever seen this novelization?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Planet#Novelization