2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

He cheated on his first wife, too. That's on the record.

but he's so ugly!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/John_McCain_interview_on_April_24,_1974.jpg/628px-John_McCain_interview_on_April_24,_1974.jpg

whoah

Time is cruel bitch goddess apparently

he wasn't always! he useta be kinda fetching in a corn-fed kinda way

xpost i was just gonna post that pic lol

he looks like an undertaker.

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so i'm curious about this debate tonight. i'm kinda thinking the tone is gonna be harsh.

um, yeah

or at least no democratic-party-love-in

http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/3800/9542/t/42673-Senator-John-McCain-0.jpg
http://www.friendsofmccain.com/images/flight_suit.jpg

i woulda hit that

lol navy

keep it on the gaymo thread gaymos

yes, only straight pics here like, er, this ?

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n17/dhvoice/misc/vicki-iseman.jpg

"journalistic version of waterboarding"

I'm glad McCain has his own overblown accusations to deal with so he doesn't just get free hits on Obama until the convention.

deej's dismissal of this gives me confidence that it's got legs

Almost 1600 comments on the Times story so far, most of them HILARIOUS.

Everyone's got a different conspiracy theory on this one, and no one seems to be focusing on the Keating thing.

Bill O'Reilly and Hugh Hewitt have material for their respective radio shows for days.

And yeah, I am pretty sure more stuff's gonna come out on this.

i was really hoping this would be a non-starter

well, now that the times piece has dropped, a lot of investigative types are going to scrub through mccain's entire relationships with iseman and paxson looking for more details, interviewing every associate who can be tracked down, financial records will be scoured for improprieties -- this is going to be big news for at least a full week, with repercussions following well into the general campaign season.

lol iseman looks like a college gf of mine

uh so time to get ghoulish: who benefits on the dem side? does this matter? does it 'remind' ppl of lewinsky? does it suck up all the oxygen, leaving an momentum in stasis? OR WAHT.

any momentum

See above re: distracting McCain while the Dems straighten their shit out.

Son looks just like his old man:

http://mccainblogette.com/docs/postings/021408/00.jpg

only a little more date rapey

My sources tell me that McCain and Hillary also had an "unusual" relationship in the nineties. Katherine Wiley introduced them.

I think the story itself, as the Times printed it, probably with all the most salacious details lawyered out, is not a big deal

the real "what does it mean" is this -->

a lot of investigative types are going to scrub through mccain's entire relationships with iseman and paxson looking for more details

My sources tell me that McCain and Hillary also had an "unusual" relationship in the nineties. Katherine Wiley introduced them.

I am really tempted to write McCain/HRC fanfic.

The presence of a Gene Simmons sex tape makes me worried that there is a John McCain sex tape.

xpost There's already Obama/McCain slash out there.

the real "what does it mean" is this -->

a lot of investigative types are going to scrub through mccain's entire relationships with iseman and paxson looking for more details

It means they're being political journalists?

meaning there's probably more to come imo

NYT has sounded the call and now the hounds have been released and they are out for the blood of the candidate, BLOOD I SAY

BLOOD: THERE WILL BE SOME OF IT

times story ain't exactly definitive

but then again they've been working it for months, maybe there's nothing more to get

whoever the sources were they haven't exactly been shy about telling their story if the Times, WashPo and TNR all had it

blowback = right now unites behind McCain against NYT

Eh, it was bound to happen. If the Times hadn't gone after him, the Dems would have.

well, the NYT-hating far-right arm of the party will unite behind him, sure, but isn't it just as likely that the scandal could shake loose some of his independent and moderate republican supporters?

Limbaugh added: “This is what you get when you walk across the aisle and try to make these people your friends. I'm not surprised in the least that the NYT would try to take out John McCain. Predicted this, in fact, way back in the early 2000s.

and there was the NYT, waiting in the cut for eight long years, waiting for the perfect moment to POUNCE with this mildly embarrassing story

Though see Ned's link upthread going "boo hoo poor McCain his pet liberal paper has turned on him."

I am really tempted to write McCain/HRC fanfic.

Necroslash = Nicole's secret vice.

No, it just sounds like the ultimate horrible romcom.

Other things happening today:

-- Obama's campiagn manager David Plouffe is in NC -- an Edwards endorsement forthcoming?

-- civil suit of Peter Paul v. Bill Clinton et al. starts today in LA Superior Court

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In the pocket of Big McCain.

If you're holding public office, what's worse: banging an intern or banging a lobbyist?