2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

i love how primary results are front page news everywhere - the whole world is following along w/us!

Asked about why he was so interested in the US presidential race, a Dutch PM said "Because it's going to be our new president as well", stating his view on how important the US is for the rest of the world.

Our vice-MP Wouter Bos even got reprimanded by MP Balkenende for saying he'd like Obama to win.

So yes, YOU ARE BEING WATCHED.

goddammit, this is gonna turn into a lewinsky-in-micro situation: 'lol u nailed her' 'no i did not', when the real story is that he was super cozy with a lobbyist and doing favors for her and her clients. he's said he's never had anything to do with lobbying or lobbyists. straight talk my fucking eye.

lolz @ former Romney campaign staffer complaining about the NYT not running this story in December on CNN last night. gee, bitter much?

I'm bitter! Candidate Mitt would have been so much more entertaining.

personally I think this story is bullshit. Couldn't care less about the infidelity angle, and wau I am shocked - SHOCKED - that McCain is a hypocrite re: lobbyists. I guess it will hurt him with the Republican base, which is good, but lolz what are they gonna do now, all turn to Fuckabee?? yah right

Sigh, Tammy plans to vote for Hilary, which doesn't surprise me:

Will Tammy Baldwin, superdelegate, represent the 2nd CD as well as Tammy Baldwin, Congresswoman?
February 20th, 2008

The answer appears to be no.

As a reward for winning every single precinct in Dane County, and for winning big in all the neighboring counties as well, Barack Obama will win five delegates from the 2nd CD, while Clinton will win three.

Unfortunately, unless things change, his actual advantage at the convention will be only a single delegate, since Tammy Baldwin is a superdelegate who plans to vote for Senator Clinton.

im glad for the u-fucked-her angle even though he probably didnt because it undermines trust in mccain and keeps what would be a kinda wonky lobbyist story in the news long enough for people to investigate it further

oh he fucked her alright

xposts - nah, the story may not have the meat on it that would normally warrant a lot of attention, but i'm pretty happy it broke. as others have mentioned (and TPM has a comment on it right now: Teflon John), the press doesn't really even touch mccain's contradictory or hypocritical statements at all. maybe this will be the start?

the "straight-talk express" crap is such bullshit but the press hardly calls him on it, so i'm digging the exposure of this admittedly thin story, because maybe it'll help start a "mccain full-of-shit" narrative to counter the straight talk one.

the infidelity angle, even if false, at least shakes up the "war hero reformer" / "paragon of virtue in a corrupt system" image and brings him to a far more flawed, human level

^exactly

He cheated on his first wife, too. That's on the record.

but he's so ugly!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/John_McCain_interview_on_April_24,_1974.jpg/628px-John_McCain_interview_on_April_24,_1974.jpg

whoah

Time is cruel bitch goddess apparently

he wasn't always! he useta be kinda fetching in a corn-fed kinda way

xpost i was just gonna post that pic lol

he looks like an undertaker.

??

so i'm curious about this debate tonight. i'm kinda thinking the tone is gonna be harsh.

um, yeah

or at least no democratic-party-love-in

http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/3800/9542/t/42673-Senator-John-McCain-0.jpg
http://www.friendsofmccain.com/images/flight_suit.jpg

i woulda hit that

lol navy

keep it on the gaymo thread gaymos

yes, only straight pics here like, er, this ?

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n17/dhvoice/misc/vicki-iseman.jpg

"journalistic version of waterboarding"

I'm glad McCain has his own overblown accusations to deal with so he doesn't just get free hits on Obama until the convention.

deej's dismissal of this gives me confidence that it's got legs

Almost 1600 comments on the Times story so far, most of them HILARIOUS.

Everyone's got a different conspiracy theory on this one, and no one seems to be focusing on the Keating thing.

Bill O'Reilly and Hugh Hewitt have material for their respective radio shows for days.

And yeah, I am pretty sure more stuff's gonna come out on this.

i was really hoping this would be a non-starter

well, now that the times piece has dropped, a lot of investigative types are going to scrub through mccain's entire relationships with iseman and paxson looking for more details, interviewing every associate who can be tracked down, financial records will be scoured for improprieties -- this is going to be big news for at least a full week, with repercussions following well into the general campaign season.

lol iseman looks like a college gf of mine

uh so time to get ghoulish: who benefits on the dem side? does this matter? does it 'remind' ppl of lewinsky? does it suck up all the oxygen, leaving an momentum in stasis? OR WAHT.

any momentum

See above re: distracting McCain while the Dems straighten their shit out.

Son looks just like his old man:

http://mccainblogette.com/docs/postings/021408/00.jpg

only a little more date rapey

My sources tell me that McCain and Hillary also had an "unusual" relationship in the nineties. Katherine Wiley introduced them.

I think the story itself, as the Times printed it, probably with all the most salacious details lawyered out, is not a big deal

the real "what does it mean" is this -->

a lot of investigative types are going to scrub through mccain's entire relationships with iseman and paxson looking for more details

My sources tell me that McCain and Hillary also had an "unusual" relationship in the nineties. Katherine Wiley introduced them.

I am really tempted to write McCain/HRC fanfic.

The presence of a Gene Simmons sex tape makes me worried that there is a John McCain sex tape.

xpost There's already Obama/McCain slash out there.

the real "what does it mean" is this -->

a lot of investigative types are going to scrub through mccain's entire relationships with iseman and paxson looking for more details

It means they're being political journalists?

meaning there's probably more to come imo

NYT has sounded the call and now the hounds have been released and they are out for the blood of the candidate, BLOOD I SAY

BLOOD: THERE WILL BE SOME OF IT

times story ain't exactly definitive

but then again they've been working it for months, maybe there's nothing more to get