"Please submit the following documents as soon as possible, if you have not done so already." Switching from passive to active usually solves that stuff for me.
― Shock and Awe High School (Phil D.), Monday, 20 September 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)
yes, i like that.
back to you ledge, can you beat that?
― illiterate mods are killing ilx (darraghmac), Monday, 20 September 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)
CAN YOU HUH?
^ switch from passive to aggressive
fuck you all
― ledge, Monday, 20 September 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)
yeah i've zung better
― ledge, Monday, 20 September 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)
oooh while we're on the right thread can i get a second opinion on 'zung'
― illiterate mods are killing ilx (darraghmac), Monday, 20 September 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)
stung sung zung
― ledge, Monday, 20 September 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
^ zinged beast
― illiterate mods are killing ilx (darraghmac), Monday, 20 September 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)
Is this grammatically correct?
"He posted a new question to ILX, typing as fast as he could."
Do you always have to have a "while" in there? Would a long dash work instead, or is this construction simply grammatically incorrect?
― wk, Monday, 20 September 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)
You don't need a 'while' in there, I think, the end of your sentence is an adverbial describing the way in which he posted rather than a separate activity.
― Running the Gantelope (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)
Ah, an adverbial. Thanks! Are adverbial phrases considered a fiction writing faux pas on the level of adverbs?
― wk, Monday, 20 September 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)
depending on which linguist you ask almost all clauses can be described as having adverbial components
― dayo, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 00:01 (fifteen years ago)
This is causing huge arguments in work:
1. "It was a pleasure to walk past the building"
OR
2. "It was a pleasure to walk passed the building"
I say 1. Everybody else says 2. Which is correct, and why?
― nate woolls, Friday, 24 September 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)
are you serious?
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 September 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)
I sense a trap.
Hmmm.
It's like that time in primary school I had to draw the water in a bottle turned on its side and go it wrong. I know it is.
Wait.
Is 'It was a pleasure to walk' the name of someone where you work, nate?
― the too encumbered madman (GamalielRatsey), Friday, 24 September 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)
go it wrong got it wrong
― the too encumbered madman (GamalielRatsey), Friday, 24 September 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)
I am serious. I thought it was obviously PAST, I can't see any way on earth it could be PASSED, but a bunch of people have got me doubting myself. People who I previously thought were reasonably intelligent.
― nate woolls, Friday, 24 September 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)
#1. Anything else is total lunacy.
Also recently found in a book at work: "pho-hawk." Apparently the author has a particular attachment to that horror. Should such people be killed and eaten?
― I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Friday, 24 September 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)
God, nate, you must have thought you were going mad. Like the end of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
― the too encumbered madman (GamalielRatsey), Friday, 24 September 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)
I work with a load of idiots, obviously.
― nate woolls, Friday, 24 September 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)
you don't understand! my dog, who i have named "it was a pleasure to walk", had just eaten a building!
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)
Most amusing.
I don't understand 'pho-hawk' - what is that supposed to be?
― Running the Gantelope (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 24 September 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)
faux hawk?
― teddy penderecki (c sharp major), Friday, 24 September 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)
as in, the dude haircut also known as the hoxton fin
― teddy penderecki (c sharp major), Friday, 24 September 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)
Faux, yes. I don't even....
― I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Friday, 24 September 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)
Grammar folks,
What are your feelings on the tendency to refer to "a politics" or even "a politic"? Is one more correct than another? Or is it just inflated? The phrase in question is "an acerbic sexual politics".
― Dan I Wish I Was Your Lover (admrl), Sunday, 26 September 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)
It has become accepted useage to say, for example, "I like his sense of humor, but not his politics." Given this useage, the phrase passes muster, but I'd suggest that if it sounds awkward in its context, change the phrase or the context to something you don't find jarring.
― Aimless, Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)
i don't understand why 'an' would go into the context given, admrl.
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)
think such useage occurs frequently as part of cultural studies jargon
― dude (del), Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks guys. I'm correcting someone else's text, which is always a little difficult. I agree about "an", though
― Dan I Wish I Was Your Lover (admrl), Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)
"Over the past 20 years, ABC Company has helped many businesses in __________ (improve) their brand."
this is for a verb conjugation exercise. obviously that "in" means it will be "improving", but...why? is it just some phrasal convention? without "in" it would be just "improve" which to me seems a bit clearer, and could also be easily understood in grammar terms.
― rent, Monday, 27 September 2010 07:11 (fifteen years ago)
wd just go with 'to improve' myself
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 27 September 2010 08:03 (fifteen years ago)
Verb forms tend to be verb+ing after a preposition, but as Darragh says, there's no real need to go down that route here.
― Running the Gantelope (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 27 September 2010 10:49 (fifteen years ago)
The rough linguist's answer is that a preposition always takes a noun phrase as argument; "improve their brand" is a (non-finite) verb phrase but "improving their brand" acts more or less like a noun phrase (e.g. "improving their brand is fun"). There some caveats and subtleties to this: nominalisations behave more idiosyncratically than other nouns, you have to accept that "to" in "to improve" is not a preposition...
― seandalai, Monday, 27 September 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)
you're right, darragh, of course. missed that. prob wouldn't say the "to" in conversation tbh. totally agree it's clumsier than necessary, but that's how it appears in the gap exercise. but great explanation, thanks very much.
― rent, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 07:56 (fifteen years ago)
you're right, darragh, of course.
^ most under-used grammatical term on ilx
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 09:13 (fifteen years ago)
argh, note that this contains my biggest ongoing peeve -- businessES have brandS, plural
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)
Maybe ABC has helped companies improve ABC's brand.
― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)
by being an awesome client!
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)
I don't think it's that bad - it's one way to signal that there's a single brand per business. Would you also hate on the following example? "Five of the songs contain a disco breakdown".
― seandalai, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)
"helped many businesses improve their brands" gets my vote.
― quincie, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)
I also vote to pretty much never use "help" in this sense. Weak-ass word.
― quincie, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)
would go with with brand singular tbh
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)
that's only playing it by ear mind
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)
ugh I'm with nabisco on the plural
― quincie, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)
Language Log weighs in, suggests that nabisco is on the side of predominant usage.
― seandalai, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)
Though I think that their example ("ostriches...bury their head") patterns slightly differently to our one.
― seandalai, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)
its "brands" with an "s" because "their" is referring to "businesses"--"a business" is a single thing
― max, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 07:56 (fifteen years ago)
i.e. the sentence "the business has improved their brand" is wrong
― max, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 07:57 (fifteen years ago)