"Hipster" as pejorative.

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I am sensing some insincerity here.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

was thinking the other day about how much the current uk sports science bro/brit-guido/meathead look is really similar to london hipsters circa 2000. it's all elaborately gelled hair, stubble, huge baggy jeans with fake wear or embroidery, big graphic tees (only superdry and ed-hardy instead of BAPE or silus) expensive trainers and aviator shades. at that time, these guys would be going out in a ben sherman shirt and black slacks or whatever.

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:14 (fifteen years ago)

lol, superdry even do aviators now:

http://www.superdry.com/gb/mens/sunglasses/details/19638/co-pilot-sunglasses

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)

hipster bashing = officially a cliché. there was a horrid op-ed piece in campus newspaper (which i sometimes read while waiting for the bus) opposing hipsters. wtf.

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)

lol hipsters

snrub-n-tug (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

it's a natural enough reaction to be suspicious of strangers who adopt the trappings of things they don't seem to have any organic relation to.

Like all those people who wear blue jeans and yet aren't cowboys. I am suspicious of them.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

Side Question: did Vampire Weekend help to popularize that oxford shirt w/ rolled sleeves and raybans look that everyone is rocking lately or are they just part of the wave?

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:21 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.sbpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/hipstuh.jpg

amirite

she's one intense bitch, she rides a unicyle (arby's), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:22 (fifteen years ago)

xpost

Feedback loop.

Folk Devils and Moral Panics still has so much to say to us.

Eejit Piaf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:27 (fifteen years ago)

"Like all those people who wear blue jeans and yet aren't cowboys. I am suspicious of them."
what if they're also carrying Smith & Wessons and Confederate scrip?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

...and also constantly disparaging salsa made in NYC.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

Civil War ended 145 years ago, hipster.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

innaresting theory max a

sports science bro! i suspect they do exist

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

Side note: cowboys are usually associated with the West, not the South.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

I did give all my cowboy-type button up shirts away when I moved to Las Cruces because it was for real cowboy shit down there! Rodeos, two-stepping, helping birth calves: I did none of these things. I didn't want to front on some ranch life I wasn't living.

Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:38 (fifteen years ago)

innaresting theory max a

sports science bro! i suspect they do exist

― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:33 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

bros who go to uni to get drunk but also make full use of the gym facilities. my friend is a kung-fu instructor, pretty cool, but ALL the guys he hung out with were like this.

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)

tyler durden would be a sort of alt-sportsciencebro fashion icon

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

kid i used to know vaguely growing up is now training as a heavyweight mma fighter and looks like a v scary sportscience bro

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

yes! the ultimate sportsciencebro movie is fight club.

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)

you could almost sum it up as "middle class guys who like getting into fights".

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

are they actually into science on any level?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

INAUTHENTIC!

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 22:57 (fifteen years ago)

they were invented by the pr dept of an energy drinks retailer in 2002 but took a few years to exist in the real world

they wanted to like nu-metal growing up but didn't want to look like freaks

they will return the osborne govt to power in 2015

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

are they actually into science on any level?

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:56 (Yesterday) Bookmark

they did sports science at uni and/or read "mens health". into protein shakes and that.

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

"they wanted to like nu-metal growing up but didn't want to look like freaks"

would often ask the fat metal guy in my halls questions like "are linkin park considered a proper metal band? is it ok to like them?"

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)

they think you're a "quality bloke" if you can hold your drink, deliver a withering putdown and deflower impressionable catholic girl's school virgins

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

what about jerking off another dude?

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

then you're a "good laugh" but also someone not to be trusted with one's wingman duties

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

hmmm... are you sure we're talking about the same strawmen?

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:19 (fifteen years ago)

I think I'm going more for trad sporty collegiate scoundrel, you for something a little more introverted, mechanical perhaps - the sort of lad who'll have a drink and an exploit but who'll be up at 8 every morning for gym and will keep to himself in conversation, perhaps thinking of his muscle tone and how he'd really like to take tea with his supervisor

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:23 (fifteen years ago)

i think i'm talking about lower middle class SSB's who go to crummy former polys and you're talking about future captains of industry.

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:28 (fifteen years ago)

yeah my bad tbh - the sports dorks will inherit the civil service, the jocks will merely inherit the earth

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)

so long as they have some appreciation of science, it can't be all bad.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)

used to rock a lot of FCUK but now more into:

http://www.shop.bench.co.uk/downloads/Image/product/large/BMGA1529-BK001-1.jpg

superdry gunning for #1 SSB brand status, tho.

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)

Jesus, I can't believe that video which I thought was somewhat amusing but mainly because they said "dickhead" a lot and I have the sense of humor of a 12 year old, has spawned this many posts. You guys are sure getting fired up about this.

master of retardment (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:43 (fifteen years ago)

i'm still talking about how "nathan barley" types influnced the sartorial mores of the most mainstream of uk bros ten years on.

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:47 (fifteen years ago)

ah come on don't do the "it's just a joke" thing! had to deal with this from more than one friend already. x-post to erica...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:48 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not stopping anyone, just saying it seems many hipsters are so concerned with letting everyone know how hip they are that I have trouble determining whether ____ is to help them fit in to the hip crowd, or whether they feel legitimately strongly about ____. I just think doing something just to fit in is stupid thats all

none of the above actually means anything. how do you know what someone is concerned about or why they do what they do? and how is disliking people for that perceived behaviour mean you aren't trying to fit in?

what if someone said you are just saying the above because others are...and to fit in?

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)

Jesus, I can't believe that video which I thought was somewhat amusing but mainly because they said "dickhead" a lot and I have the sense of humor of a 12 year old, has spawned this many posts. You guys are sure getting fired up about this.

― master of retardment (ENBB), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 00:43 (3 minutes ago)

no.....it initially led to a discussion of the construction of english h______s (who didn't used to be called that)

now we're trying to define sportsciencebros

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)

so tired of being alt.
just want 2 "chill at spoonies" and smash some "high street honeys"
"ride the steriod-waves" while drinkin magners with my bros.
fixin my elaborately gelled hair with "shockwaves clay putty extreme hold"
talk abt how fight club is "mad deep".
and compare sweet fcuk/bench/superdry/WSC xtra large tees
(via 2k-zero era hipsters working in mnstrm fashion)

max arrrrrgh, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:55 (fifteen years ago)

Is there an honorable breed of sportsciencebros? I remember reading Stephen Hawking used to be on the rowing team during better days.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:56 (fifteen years ago)

hmmmm... nope.

max arrrrrgh, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 00:00 (fifteen years ago)

if a social worker meets an at-risk 10yr old kid called raoul in 2021, they have identified the progeny of a sportsciencebro

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 00:00 (fifteen years ago)

entrylevel ssbs will diversify into estate agency etc but the core bro's are basically restricted to

army then private security
bouncers
gym employees / personal trainers
pe teachers

i don't know if enough research has been done about the effects the last group will have on the education system

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 00:08 (fifteen years ago)

PE teachers have forever been proto-post-SSBs, no?

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 00:10 (fifteen years ago)

there's a lot of stuff in the ssb world that would seem quite alien to yr trad pe teacher

ssbs read sun tzu and holiday in thailand, they might get a 17 yr old pregnant but they'll be sensible enough not to do it on the job, they harbour no inhibitions about steroid abuse, they can spell but not pronounce nietzsche, they will have attended a psytrance night and probably like barack obama

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 00:21 (fifteen years ago)

when did we stop saying douchebag?

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 00:22 (fifteen years ago)

self-answering questions...

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 00:22 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, i think in the US we would just call those dudes douchebags

sarahel, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 00:23 (fifteen years ago)

that's never really been a common pejorative in england

anyway, they're only one star in that constellation

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)


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