"Hipster" as pejorative.

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what happens when you are "trying too hard" to look like you are "not trying"?

is it okay to even "try"?

To fit in? Sure, but walking cliches just come across as shallow to me.

sorry, but "trying too hard" is the lamest cop-out excuse for criticism. maybe next time you can "try harder" to articulate yourself!

Sure, but walking cliches just come across as shallow to me.

yah i often judge ppl about whom i know next to nothing as shallow too!!!

i don;'t know what we're yelling about

saying somebody is "trying too hard" is pretty much textbook "narcissism of small differences" imho

If they look so concerned with being trendy, then I feel like I really have to investigate to be convinced what they believe is not just for the sake of trendiness too.

in my experience saying a hipster is trying to hard is code for "im gonna try and fuck that hipster". its an instant sb in my book.

I only added the (too hard) up there out of frustration with being over the top trendy. Stop freaking out.

whence the concern with how other people expend their effort? does it matter?

i am seriously "freaking out" about this.

I'm not stopping anyone, just saying it seems many hipsters are so concerned with letting everyone know how hip they are that I have trouble determining whether ____ is to help them fit in to the hip crowd, or whether they feel legitimately strongly about ____. I just think doing something just to fit in is stupid thats all.

unfortunate, maybe, but not stupid. membership brings rewards, at least that's what my credit card statement says.

yeah i'm probably trolling at this point but this concern with the authenticity of trendy strangers is... probably disingenuous

Also how do you know they really have consciousness and aren't just programmed that way?

it's a natural enough reaction to be suspicious of strangers who adopt the trappings of things they don't seem to have any organic relation to.
like if you went to a teenage mutant ninja turtles convention and saw a bunch of pensioners there dressed as leonardo and shredder.

shit, what if the turing test was passed... by a hipster bot

if i saw a bunch of old people dressed as ninja turtles, i would assume their interest in ninja turtles was genuine, and possibly dementia-related

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omg look at how "hard" they are "trying"

it's a natural enough reaction to be suspicious of strangers who adopt the trappings of things they don't seem to have any organic relation to.
like if you went to a teenage mutant ninja turtles convention and saw a bunch of pensioners there dressed as leonardo and shredder.

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:11 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

would you actually be "suspicious" if this happened

"something's up here guys... i got a bad vibe about this teenage mutant ninja turtles convention. keep your eyes open."

I am sensing some insincerity here.

was thinking the other day about how much the current uk sports science bro/brit-guido/meathead look is really similar to london hipsters circa 2000. it's all elaborately gelled hair, stubble, huge baggy jeans with fake wear or embroidery, big graphic tees (only superdry and ed-hardy instead of BAPE or silus) expensive trainers and aviator shades. at that time, these guys would be going out in a ben sherman shirt and black slacks or whatever.

lol, superdry even do aviators now:

http://www.superdry.com/gb/mens/sunglasses/details/19638/co-pilot-sunglasses

hipster bashing = officially a cliché. there was a horrid op-ed piece in campus newspaper (which i sometimes read while waiting for the bus) opposing hipsters. wtf.

lol hipsters

it's a natural enough reaction to be suspicious of strangers who adopt the trappings of things they don't seem to have any organic relation to.

Like all those people who wear blue jeans and yet aren't cowboys. I am suspicious of them.

Side Question: did Vampire Weekend help to popularize that oxford shirt w/ rolled sleeves and raybans look that everyone is rocking lately or are they just part of the wave?

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amirite

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Feedback loop.

Folk Devils and Moral Panics still has so much to say to us.

"Like all those people who wear blue jeans and yet aren't cowboys. I am suspicious of them."
what if they're also carrying Smith & Wessons and Confederate scrip?

...and also constantly disparaging salsa made in NYC.

Civil War ended 145 years ago, hipster.

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sports science bro! i suspect they do exist

Side note: cowboys are usually associated with the West, not the South.

I did give all my cowboy-type button up shirts away when I moved to Las Cruces because it was for real cowboy shit down there! Rodeos, two-stepping, helping birth calves: I did none of these things. I didn't want to front on some ranch life I wasn't living.

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sports science bro! i suspect they do exist

― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:33 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

bros who go to uni to get drunk but also make full use of the gym facilities. my friend is a kung-fu instructor, pretty cool, but ALL the guys he hung out with were like this.

tyler durden would be a sort of alt-sportsciencebro fashion icon

kid i used to know vaguely growing up is now training as a heavyweight mma fighter and looks like a v scary sportscience bro

yes! the ultimate sportsciencebro movie is fight club.

you could almost sum it up as "middle class guys who like getting into fights".

are they actually into science on any level?

INAUTHENTIC!

they were invented by the pr dept of an energy drinks retailer in 2002 but took a few years to exist in the real world

they wanted to like nu-metal growing up but didn't want to look like freaks

they will return the osborne govt to power in 2015

are they actually into science on any level?

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 23:56 (Yesterday) Bookmark

they did sports science at uni and/or read "mens health". into protein shakes and that.

"they wanted to like nu-metal growing up but didn't want to look like freaks"

would often ask the fat metal guy in my halls questions like "are linkin park considered a proper metal band? is it ok to like them?"

they think you're a "quality bloke" if you can hold your drink, deliver a withering putdown and deflower impressionable catholic girl's school virgins