Americanisms that will never, ever cross over into the UK

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Did "tube" for television make it over?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 28 June 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Give me an example (xp)

Did "tube" for television make it over?

Years ago

Tom D., Thursday, 28 June 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

saying "momentarily" instead of "in a short while" when it means "FOR a short while" already. OH WAIT.

Alan, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

"Tube" for television is vestigal in the US and shows only in expressions like "boobtube", as far as I can tell!

Laurel, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

i guess that's why they all it the blues - elton john

inevitable xpost

CharlieNo4, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

It's a rock song! They don't count!

Tom D., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

ok

i say it all the time and have done for at least a decade.

CharlieNo4, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

i see dentistry has been mentioned already...

regarding an interest in guns as a patriotic duty

Alan, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

i say 'guess' for suppose. i say 'douchebag'. i say 'psyched'. "write me" is the dative tense and entirely acceptable english. i have taken to saying 'season' where britishes say 'series'.

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

trunk or is it still called a boot?

carne asada, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

i probably write quite a few (American) words on ILX i almost never say in REAL LIFE. because i feel like i'm writing to a fairly sophistimacated American audience on here a lot of the time and there's this urge to be accepted by them or at least thought of as not ignorant of/opposed to the differences in "their" language (i don't get annoyed by American spelling of certain words for example) esp. slang, daft as this may be. also when i say some words to people i'll say them in certain accents because it sounds lamer in my natural voice. i be weird.

blueski, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

i say 'guess' for suppose. i say 'douchebag'. i say 'psyched'. "write me" is the dative tense and entirely acceptable english. i have taken to saying 'season' where britishes say 'series'.

Traitor!

Tom D., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

"Asian" to mean Chinese/Japanese

Tom D., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

... or Korean, or whatever

Tom D., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

ok, i never got this. in north america we call one year's worth of TV a "season" and the entire body of work a "series" (ie. lost season 1, season 2, but the SERIES is called Lost.)

What word do britishonians use for our word "series"?

Will M., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

if we're talking about US Tv shows i guess (ha) it makes sense for us to say season not series. makes a lot less sense for British shows as someone pointed out upthread.

i feel like most of the most common ILX-isms are distinctly American inc. things like 'OTM'. there's already another thread about getting ILX-isms out into the real world tho.

blueski, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

"Asian" to mean Chinese/Japanese

(or Korean/Vietnamese/Thai/perhaps Filipino/Malaysian)

regarding an interest in guns as a patriotic duty

...

US = "What do you usually do on the weekend?" or "What do you usually do on weekends"

the latter, yes, the former, no. i don't believe jaymc knows any non-anglophiles who use it.

nabisco oh-tee-em re NY-LI "herb" (but it lasted into the early 90s)

the non-use of 'douchebag' is one that can be chalked up for the britishes

gabbneb, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

Will we would use 'series' in both cases and specify by saying 'a new series' or 'the second series'.

blueski, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

What word do britishonians use for our word "series"?

Series! You lot will insist on dragging out programMMEs for years and years and years...

Tom D., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think the Great Americanism of being a cheesy fuck will ever catch on in Britain, with large thanks going to the ever-strengthening Great Britishism of being a cynical fuck who can't express any sincere fondness for anything (see: E4).

Of course, everything I know about anything I get from watching TV.

Is "wanker" used by any Americans who aren't pretending to be British? A society that could have a place for both it and "douchebag" would be a great one indeed.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

"Tube" for television is vestigal in the US and shows only in expressions like "boobtube", as far as I can tell!

Yeah, it sticks around in my lexicon because of the Beastie Boys:

"Sittin' 'round the house/get high, watch the tube/eatin' Colonel's chicken/drinkin' Heinekin brew"

Which admittedly, is 20 years old.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

i feel like most of the most common ILX-isms are distinctly American inc. things like 'OTM'.

I figured "on the money" was a Britishism

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

americans saying "wanker" always bugs the hell out of me

ghost rider, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

same with "bloody"

ghost rider, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

"Ruddy"
"Bleedin'"

Tom D., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)

A society that could have a place for both it and "douchebag" would be a great one indeed.

THIS BAR IS CALLED ILX

ghost rider, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)

xpost to GR - Me too! Even when I lived in England I could never bring myself to say either of those because it just sounded so fake and pretentious.

ENBB, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

how about americans saying "well" instead of "really" like "she looks well angry"? i like it so much but have to stop myself from using it because people HATE it for sounding so affected. SO SAD :(

Will M., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

that was xposted way back to ghost rider re: americans + wanker and/or bloody

Will M., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

the latter, yes, the former, no. i don't believe jaymc knows any non-anglophiles who use it.

Oh, come on. Here's THREE American college newspapers:

Stanford Daily: As someone who has written an op-ed belonging to the latter category, I’ll own up and take the hit: I wrote about fun things to do on the weekend.

Daily Kent Stater:
So in the spirit of the weekend, I have compiled a list of 10 things to do on the weekend.

The State News (Michigan State Univ.):
If you’re looking for something to do on the weekend, you’ve got two new places to look.

Also, this book was published by a small press in North Carolina:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51V6Y48W40L._AA240_.jpg

jaymc, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

Oh I definitely say "I need to start finding things to do on the weekend" in reference to finding weekly activities to do over multiple weekends. But I am from Canuckistan so who knows?

Will M., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

x-post to Will - Agreed. There were a lot of things that I loved the sound of until they cam out of my mouth and I realized I just sounded like an asshole. I'm from NY and that's where I learned to talk. I have no business saying "wanker." Sadly.

ENBB, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

That's what I meant, it's used in a general sense, not a specific one referring to a particular weekend. But it is used.

jaymc, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

The worst is that I think in these terms, ENBB. My BRAIN is affected! I think, "I am well tired," or, "when I get home I will be in bare shit"

Will M., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

i really like the british meaning of "sound" as in a general term of approbation but could not use it myself, much as i would like to. i just don't have the right accent.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

I think you're well sound, Tracer Hand.

Americans saying 'wanker' always amuses me.

blueski, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)

I think I would ALSO use it for a particular weekend, though, jaymc. "I still don't know what I'm going to do on the weekend" might be said-- more like to say "...going to do this weekend" in that case, but I would, for example say:

"he's waking up early every day that week which is cool, but he will be fucked when we go out and party on the weekend" (where "on the weekend" refers to the weekend after the week in question)

xpost what meaning of sound is that tracer?

Will M., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)

"more likely" to say

Will M., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

The worst is that I think in these terms, ENBB. My BRAIN is affected! I think, "I am well tired," or, "when I get home I will be in bare shit"

What about "cuddlestein mountain"?

jaymc, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

Have never used "well" or "sound" in those contexts, bit too Madchester

Tom D., Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

Will - So do I esp. because I'm around my husband so much so his usage rubs off on me! The way I phrase things has definitely changed since meeting him/living over there but I don't even really notice that so I can't really stop myself.

sound - "He's really sound". It means someone who is . . . wow tough to explain. I guess it would be a good, solid, reliable, person. Maybe?

ENBB, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

Is "wanker" used by any Americans who aren't pretending to be British?

maybe by a few? the American politix blogger uses 'wanker' and if he is being anglophilic I don't think it comes across in type, so he may be promulgating limited such use in the world of politicoblog geeks

gabbneb, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

sound as in 'sound logic' - agreeable, correct - so yeah.

blueski, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

The season/series thing always bugged me, since how does it work for something like Star Trek, which has had multiple seasons of multiple series? like, "yeah, they only had Dr. Polaski for the 2nd series of the 2nd series"?

kingfish, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

apparently Mr Burns called U2 'wankers' in the 200th episode but i only ever saw the cut version with this taken out.

blueski, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

Or anyway these are the only types of people I encounter who might still say "herb" or know what it means.

I still use this word in this context pretty regularly.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

This belongs way upthread, but according to Viz:

A slut is a tramp and a tramp is a bum and a bum is a fanny and a fanny is a PUNANI.

ledge, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, come on. Here's THREE American college newspapers:

hey, who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes? ok, so i'm wrong, but it was an error of reading comprehension - Americans might use "on the weekend" to refer to weekends in general, but not to refer to a particular weekend, as brits do with "at the weekend"

gabbneb, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

Punani. I'm going to start using that. All the time.

ENBB, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

In America "pissed" is often used to denote "angry" (as a shortened version of "pissed off"), whereas in the UK "pissed" is firmly entrenched as denoting "drunk" and is unlikely ever to be dislodged by the American variant.

However, the UK has a rich patois that shall never cross the ocean westwards, more's the pity. For example, "grew like Topsy" is never going to catch on here in the USA.

Aimless, Thursday, 28 June 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)


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