Pretend you have a ballot for the 2012 edition of Sight & Sound's top 10 movies of all time list

is this Pasolini's Caterbury Tale being listed?

Powell and Pressburger.

Pasolini's is in the plural iirc

also damn i shd probably have had Gospel According to St Matthew in my list going toe to toe with Simon

I'd normally come on here and give my...less than enthusiastic appraisal of F Is for Fake, but acoleuthic voted for it, so I'd better not open that door.

dude your vendetta is fucking ludicrous and also I didn't put it in my top 10, learn to read

also feel fucking free to say what you want to say, I'm not gonna bite your fucking head off

Oops--it was someone else, not acoleuthic. So: I saw it last winter for the first time and thought it was sad. (Sorry.) Bad-sad, not good-sad. Except for a short passage where he got very Ambersons-like nostalgic, which was good-sad. I know it has a major following.

Charming as ever.

Considering a thread called "Surprise Beef" y/n?

clemenza you should be honoured as nowadays you're the only ilxor of the many thousands who post to this site whom I'm compelled to speak to in anything like this fashion

Duly honoured. And as a major Godfather fan, I love being involved in a vendetta!

yeah um don't take it too far, I have so many films to see before I die

"Out 1: Noli me tangere"

Amazing, but Size does matter.

should get a tv screening. (along with a re-run of Berlin Alexanderplatz)

I'm about an hour into Singin In The Rain and this is honestly one of the most joyous, purely entertaining films I've ever seen. Face is aching from grinning.

If ever a film deserved to have the 'see before you die' designation..

you millennials, with you posting mid-film!

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it's good! it's even better if you stop reading the web btw.

xp lol

It's exceedingly cute and well-executed. Other MGM musicals are deeper.

xxxp

Sorry I just had to take a little break to recover and take stock from how much I was enjoying it...

...and where better to spend it than an ILM film thread.

how is on the town viewed by critics? it's the only one that really connected with me beyond sort of cheerful admiration

xp Morbius which musicals would you say are 'deeper'?

As good but not great. xp

Meet Me in St Louis. The Band Wagon. The Wizard of Oz. An American in Paris. even Gigi!

jean hagen's so awesome in that

i love those donen-kelly pics - big ups to it's always fair weather - but minelli really is another level

an american in paris sucks balls in hell imo

sucks balls = sb

xp obv I've seen and adore The Wizard of Oz...but I'll look into those amidst all the other stuff I like watching.

Other MGM musicals are deeper.

How does this matter?

Also, those of you who are turning in multiple lists, let me know which one I should include in my inevitable spreadsheet.

useful for jaymc also^

Another ten:

The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
The Bitter Tea of General Yen
Twentieth Century
La Belle Noiseuse
The Magnificent Ambersons
The Heiress
All About Eve
The Dream Life of Angels
Grand Illusion
Orpheus

just offa top of my head i guess:

the abyss
clean, shaven
cría cuervos
edge of heaven
fanny & alexander
le samourai
third man
throne of blood
wages of fear
youth of the beast

Two days into this, and the only vote for Citizen Kane shares space with Air Bud 2 and Barely Legal #15. This is very ominous for 2012. (Or maybe very promising for Air Bud 2 and Barely Legal #15.)

Cue hand-wringing "why aren't more britishes pornos making the list?" accompanying article.

The Maltese Falcon
Rear Window
Godfather I & II
The Man With No Name Trilogy
The Third Man
To Kill a Mockingbird
Rio Bravo
Singin in the Rain
Serpico
2001

OK, I know there aren't rules or anything, but I still say it's not OK to list the first and second Godfather movies in one slot. Use two if you want to pull that crap imo.

hmm haven't they done that themselves?

ok then, Godfather Two, and The Good, The Bad and The Ugly so

Nah, I'm just being a dick. You can have them in one slot. I think it's BS that S&S did it that way, tho.

I know you don't agree--we went over this on a different thread--but I think you have to accept, or at least recognize, that for some of us they exist as a single film. Especially as you get farther and farther away from them. I'm sure they seemed very distinct when they were first released; now, for me, they blur into one another. The fairness issue in the real poll is another issue, as is the problem for anyone who has a marked preference for one of them

tbh i'm with eric on this one

I don't like the Kill Bills at all, but if they start turning up double-listed on polls 15 years from now (please no...), it'll make sense to me. But I do get your objection.

back to the futures, then? how d'you make the call?

Well...realistically, there are probably very few candidates for these kinds of polls that present a similar problem. The first two Godfathers might not be unique, but they're close.

Merging the two Godfathers was nothing but a callous move by S&S to stiff them up in the rankings. They were not filmed concurrently.

That said, no rules on these ballots.

That said, do I feel this way because I think they're both overrated? Probably.

I've got the print issue somewhere around here. I can't remember if you did this or not, but I'm going to take a quick count of separate votes tomorrow. Why do you think they had a vested interest in bumping up GF's totals--to get something more current in the Top 10? You may be right, I'm just not sure what their motivation would be.

I did split the votes out, and The Godfather would've made the top 10 (just barely) and Part II would've been, I think, 11th.

I guess that would rule out currency as a cause. I dunno, maybe they did it to engineer at least one major shake-up in the rankings.

That's even weirder...It tells me that the decision was based on the unusual 10th/11th finish, for better or worse. If they finish 6th and 17th, or 8th and 29th, I don't think they would have done it.