"Hipster" as pejorative.

that dickhead video is kind of stupid, too many nebulous "statements" in there, eg vague allusions to class when whoever made this is invariably middle class, and simultaneously mocking hipsters for being on the dole?? but also they're rich and from cambridgeshire? a little confused.

plus you know, if you are making youtube videos in your spare time then you're hardly in a position to make fun of people who have vague pretensions of working in the media.

finally, the bit about "indeterminite sexual preference", like.....is this something to be indicted? fuck those hipsters and their erm...tolerance of post 1932 attitudes to sexual behaviour. CUNTS.

i know it's just a bit of fun but i can't get past the fact that i know people in Dublin who would watch this video and genuinely 110 per cent believe "i hate hipsters, this is amazing" while doing so.

But the glasses! The trousers! It works on so many levels!

look at THEM, THEY are such twats. (also.....and this is getting into "oh but this is how you should react", and sort of why this stuff is actually amusing, electropop meets southern hiphop? where is this a thing these days? surely they should just say deep house and be done with it?)

can't helo but feel there's a huge amount of homophobia involved in all this too.

i just really hate that style of comedy singing, before it comes to anything else. the one lonely island track i don't f/w is the space olympics one, which is exactly the same tone.

but also, ehh, s0 bored of hipster bashing by now. it doesn't really advance on 'nathan barley'. and like ronan says some of it is totes random, w.r.t. the dole/working in the media/identity of the person making the viddy. also omigosh, rollies? effing hipsters.

usual contradiction of hipster-bashing: it flatters people who 'get it'.

yeah rollies exactly?? surely that's like...i dunno, just better than funding marlboro or whatever, or surely smoking cigarettes would be more posh/yuppyish? the part about "the kids at school used to call us names/now we're taking over their estates" is desperate too, like this 2 hours in ableton ditty is the anguished howl of the displaced working classes or something.

sad fact is whoever made it is prob a shaved head dude with cords and an underground resistance t-shirt...what a brilliant vision of how people SHOULDN'T live.

agree that "hipster"-bashing is boring, have no intention of watching yet another example of it, but i do wish the people i see around dalston/ldn fields etc were better dressed. the current stereotypical hipster uniform is pretty atrocious.

the part about "the kids at school used to call us names/now we're taking over their estates" is desperate too, like this 2 hours in ableton ditty is the anguished howl of the displaced working classes or something.

lol. i know that in the web 2.0 era anyone can make a film, but this feels pretty gd professional/expensive, and blatantly a calling-card to oh hey get into the media.

perhaps they will get a job writing for 'mock the week' or one of the other various hate-fuelled piss-parades that occupy the evening schedules on dave.

it's the kind of thing that gets called edgy, but it isn't really.

/dude from cambridgeshire with a fixie

You may think I'm a "randomer" but dammit I'm right.

are hipsters really the only ones with fixies too? the only person i know who has a fixie hangs out with bicycle couriers and stuff...not really a hipster at all.

I was lolling about the rollies part as well. It's nice to be on the bleeding edge of hipsterdom but tbh I mainly smoke 'em cos they're about a quarter of the cost of fags.

tbh my bike is only involuntarily a fixie. but it just seems to be an idea that has stuck more through the agency of hipster-bashing virals than anything else. (a bit like those scooters ten years ago.) i know a couple of people who have fixed-gear bikes. they're reasonably hip, but not... hipsters.

american apparel's about to go bust anyway so maybe that'll usher in a sea change in the uniform

people dressing up as sailors is always a good idea

not pirates, obv

beckham has a fixie btw
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/12/article-0-0B24B08D000005DC-831_468x654.jpg

and he's dressed a sailor

CALLED IT

I think he's "walking the dog" there.

looool

sidebar: what's the advantage of a fixed-gear bike, over one with gears?

lighter, less parts to go wrong, less parts to get clogged up w/winter salt and muck and stuff. 'serious' cyclists will ride them in winter and couriers like them cos they're easier to maintain

My bike is a fixed-gear, but only because someone (not me) took the derailleur off.

kind of guessed it might be that, but i used to cycle like an eight mile round journey every day, and, well, yeah it involves maintenance, deal with it. my bike guy offers extremely reasonable rates, by any standards.

have a bike that is built for comfort and carrying shit [via a basket], so yeah it's heavier... hence gears.

xpost

it's quite flat round your area though, no?

fixed gear in glasgow w/ all the hills etc would be madness. unless you, like, live for cycling which a lot of people do.

& fair play to them.

yeah it's flat here, but having a three-speed just makes underpasses/bridges/our one hill easier. lol also it's very windy! not sure if a fixie is always in 'top' or 'middle', as it were. i'd usually be in top, but it's nice to have options. tyres are always more of a maintenance issue for me, anyway. london has some pretty steep bits.

the shallowness gets to me, personally. Its very hard to tell what a hipster feels passionate about vs. what they're accessorizing with.

― I will always think of you, while (quite) fondly, myself (Evan), Sunday, September 12, 2010 5:17 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark

maybe a hipster is someone who "feels passionate about" "accessorizing with" things

I feel like passion and commitment will always always absolve you of hipsterism. Like a dude could get a few tattoos and piercings, big deal, right? he's just a few laser treatments and a law degree away back to polite society. but can a guy who makes his face look permanently like a crocodile be a hipster? that guy isn't fooling around!

so are you Brits finally understanding American ilx's dilemma vis a vis the "hipster" thing?

yeah it was completely esoteric until yesterday

lol

did charlie brooker 'invent hipster bashing'?

or that cunt who edited shoreditch twat?

[sry for the language but that was p hard to resist]

the one person on my friends list who posted that video to facebook - and thought it was hilarious - is

a) British
b) talks at length about dubstep
c) is kinda a hipster tbh

scene that celebrates itself, innit?

also - when i met that guy - i thought, he looks like an ilx dude

'i thought, he looks like an ilx dude' = female equiv of 'she's annoying' amirite

oh shit -- my one memory of 'shoreditch twat', from 1999-2000 [via a housemate with whom i once attended a sleazenation party lol], was some feature dissing some kind of person apparently seen in the clerkenwell area. and it contained all sorts of shit that i, a 19 y.o. provincial, had never heard of, this being more or less dawn-of-the-internet, but one thing i definitely remember was, omg this type of person wears DUFFER OF ST GEORGE clothing. n e ways, just leaving this post for cultural historians to pick over, but also, these things are always self-regarding. if you know why duffer of st george is totes uncool, then you're in. so shoreditch twat was rly a hipster zine that affected to mock hipsters. confusing.

ut also, these things are always self-regarding. if you know why duffer of st george is totes uncool, then you're in. so shoreditch twat was rly a hipster zine that affected to mock hipsters. confusing.

yep.

ILX is so obviously infested with hipsters, just like bedbugs in Brooklyn.

'i thought, he looks like an ilx dude' = female equiv of 'she's annoying' amirite

― nakhchivan, Sunday, September 12, 2010 1:15 PM (14 minutes ago)

hahaha no offense ILX dudes but nooooooo. "He's 5'8" and he has glasses...I have to fuck 'im!" I would literally never not be fucking.

lol Abbott - this guy is actually 5'8" and wears glasses!

also a bit chubby and has slightly unkempt facial hair

[via a housemate with whom i once attended a sleazenation party lol]

lol was this in oxford by any chance?

the party was in london's fashionable east london, but yeah we were taking the good old oxford tube

The guy I think of as the biggest Duffer clotheshorse ever now manages Massive Attack - suspect that anyone dissing that label in 2000 was making a dig at West London from the East (and Shoreditch Twat was Neil B00rman who ran Mother/edited Sleazenation when it went under and wrote The Bonfire of the Brands).

I knew this revive would be about the Dickhead video and I can tell you that its makers are two Londoners - Rafael and Reuben - who are comedians rather than scenesters making some kind of pre-emptive strike on their peers. From what I gather from our friend in common (young black comedian who nearly won the Hackney Empire talent contest last year, little brother of friend who is a d&b DJ) they're about 20.

Is that collective IQ or each?

so comedians and scenesters are mutually exclusive designations?

suspect that anyone dissing that label in 2000 was making a dig at West London from the East

yeah i googled duffer, and apparently it was a thing among acid jazz/straight-no-chaser types

comedians are always uncool -- weird but true