Gay Marriage to Alfred: Your Thoughts

not gay marriage, but this is a big deal:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/10/us/10gays.html?_r=1

lol @ 10gays.html

My girlfriend's college-age cousin wrote this:
http://iowaindependent.com/42714/same-sex-marriage-in-iowano-harm-to-traditional-marriage-study-finds

:D

ok, i totally missed the whole maine going back on it thing :(

bumping to link my #1 bro J's blog post re gay marriage and the church

http://presweldevotional.blogspot.com/2010/08/being-on-left-side-of-history-same-sex.html

not exactly a timely bump but

Ladies and gentlemen, bring on the roffles:

http://unicornbooty.com/2011/04/nom-leader-announces-support-of-marriage-equality/

INSPIRGAYTION

Full statement here:

http://louisjmarinelli.com/politics/i-now-support-full-marriage-equality

The comments alternate between really sweet and hilarious

Key quote from early in the second link:

the lesbian and gay people whom I made a profession out of opposing became real people for me almost instantly. For the first time I had empathy for them and remember asking myself what I was doing.

Well, congratulations for his making this discovery, fella, but what kind of people did you think they were? This quote however, does give clarity and insight into the typical anti-gay mindset.

My mom (now 86 years old) used to claim she didn't know any actual gay people and also was very resistent to gay rights. Suddenly, she got turned around because she met an openly lesbian woman with kids and got to talk to her about some thorny child-rearing problems. She was flabbergasted to discover the woman was a perceptive, intelligent, caring mother. Gays went from mysterious perverts to real people in nothing flat.

can I just...

hmmm maybe we should throw out the straight judges too then because this issue effects them not in the slightest??

are there any asexual judges out there who can help with this case??

Imagine if these people spent the time and energy they are putting into to enshrining prejudice into law into projects like fixing roads.

seriously one of the shittiest excuses for legal reasoning I have ever seen in that brief wtf

"Only if Chief Judge Walker had unequivocally disavowed any interest in marrying his partner could the parties and the public be confident that he did not have a direct personal interest in the outcome of the case," the motion said.

this is so incredibly moronic

I dunno Shakey, more power to them I guess. Like, I can just imagine some guy in his house, losing sleep over this, staring at his wife in bed, thinking "what if...?", believing with all his heart that his commitment is about to be tarnished, getting up, searching furiously on his computer, thinking "there's got to be a way to keep them down!" and finding this, shocked that "the gays are not playing fair", and returning to bed with a new sense of righteous indignation.

that doesn't change the fact that, in terms of legal reasoning, this is a very stupid argument that opens their appeal up to a slam-dunk counter appeal if it is accepted

not at all, but the idea that someone cares so much about this that they'd argue something that so obviously fails on every level but one is pretty amusing

it just seems like a weird thing to oppose on this level since it's going to happen at some point no matter what anyone does about it

it displays a fundamental misunderstanding of jurisprudence. the principle they are arguing simply cannot be applied to the law. extend the reasoning for a bit - should the white justices that struck down segregation laws have recused themselves because they were white? should married hetero judges recuse themselves from cases regarding gay marriage because they have an interest in "preserving" the institution of marriage? it's idiotic.

I mean sure it's FUNNY, but they're also wasting my hard-earned tax dollars with this nonsense that any half-witted first year law student could demolish

First year law student? How about, say, a 7th grader? I'm guessing even the Prop 8 supporters know how stupid this is!

they're also wasting my hard-earned tax dollars

Actually not entirely, in that the state via Brown and Harris aren't defending this thing, it's Pugno and his band of lunkheads. (In that they're taking up state/federal court time, yes, but personally I've been enjoying watching them stretch themselves even thinner.)

In that they're taking up state/federal court time, yes

yeah this is what I was referring to

Shakey, if they keep making nonsensical and desperate looking arguments, conceivably it will only strengthen the arguments for marriage equality. It will also be a delightful cudgel to use on all the 'fiscal responsibility' right-wingers, too.

word. i'm 100% in favor of these nitwits blowing their $$ and any sympathy they might have been getting from moderates

even though i'm not really all gung-ho about gay marriage or whatever, this shit re: Walker is just completely WTF.

im for gay marriage

Awesome! Wanna get married?

i dont know you but what do you look like?

UM EXCUSE ME, ALFRED AND BRODIE....

Who wants to marry me? I flip a mean ham omelet.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:13 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm in. I get paid tomorrow, so this is good timing.

― next person tries to teach me about JOY IN LIFE gets a tubgirl in return (Jesse), Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:15 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'll defrost the ham.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:18 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This is the best marriage proposal exchange I've ever known.

― next person tries to teach me about JOY IN LIFE gets a tubgirl in return (Jesse), Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:21 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

He's removed the stay but only effective at the end of the day on the 18th.

― Un peu d'Eire, ça fait toujours Dublin (Michael White), Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:23 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Shush! We're talking ham here.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:24 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

whats your point i just want is to see what alfred looks like

Gay polyandry: your thoughts

I can offer Jesse ham. What can you give me, brodie?

he'll carry your bags

Minnesota back on the chopping block. Starting to consider exit plan.

Huh?

would go for a 4-way marriage with some of you guys under the right terms, just sayin'

Meaning I'll move away if the amendment (which is probably getting to the ballot) passes.

Only if you accept Billy Wilder as a vulgarian, Morbs.

Meaning I'll move away if the amendment (which is probably getting to the ballot) passes.

Didn't realize there was one up for consideration

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2011/04/27/minn-lawmakers-push-for-vote-on-gay-marriage-ban/

Wtf was I doing back then interrupting delicate dowry negotiations?

You made Alfred lose interest and turn to the arms of brodie. So he chooses a sock and I'm stuck still making love to a sock of another kind.

Mods, rename thread "Marriage to Alfred: Your Thoughts." Thanks!

got it

forks i think that was a joke

marriage to Alfred is serious business

Alfred, do I have to get rid of my wooden souvenir plaque from Che's gravesite?