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as an American , posting in a crap styel and speling poorly so people think I am European of some sort , I side with those putting an end to shit - quality UK novelty gags that rely on steroetypes and charicatures , of whatever stylees. but fite the real enemy FREE PÆTER CROUCHY
― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)
at last, some good humour to defuse the situation! some of you highly-strung types ought to learn a lesson from this. looking at you, ethan.
― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:58 (nineteen years ago)
if it's all-out war you want, i've got all evening, but i'd rather not tyvm.
― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)
looking back with the benefit of the distance time affords to that warm March day in 2007, it became clear to me that the Americans on the thread were just cranky because of the repeated references to soccer as football. this attitude, i reflected, was very likely to be related to the failure of the swastika-shaped potato snacks i tried to market in the US as 'crisps'.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)
Why is calling someone a "retard" acceptable, but taking the piss out of a black man for something unrelated to his colour isn't?
― ailsa, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)
um, several xposts again.
― ailsa, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)
Though I have vague memories from another thread that it's because some Americans are insensitive to the negative connotations of the word and the way that the mentally ill have historically been treated through stereotyping and insults.
― ailsa, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:05 (nineteen years ago)
xpost again, obviously. Was in on the Tiger Woods/spaz thread?
― ailsa, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:06 (nineteen years ago)
HI DERE I USED THE WORD RETARD ON PURPOSE TO ELLICIT THAT REACTION YOU WON THE WORLD YOU HORRIBLE MOUTHY STUPID BITCH
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:06 (nineteen years ago)
idiot = comes from the greek 'idios' meaning 'one's own', i.e. one who does their own thing. this can have positive as well as negative connotations.
retard = comes from the latin tardus meaning 'slow', i.e. one who is dull-brained. this can only be negative.
(just to be picky)
― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:09 (nineteen years ago)
mission accomplished, dickfuck!
― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:09 (nineteen years ago)
god, i don't know how you Yanks got through the whole Tiger Woods ordeal. Black man describes self as 'spaz', USA ILXors' heads simultaneously implode!
― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)
we're cool with spaz, you bag of dicks
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:12 (nineteen years ago)
lol, illegally delicious riposte!
― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:14 (nineteen years ago)
wake me when this thread, inevitably, comes around to tipping.
― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:15 (nineteen years ago)
(Ailsa you CAN read, right?)
I should actually be explicit here and say that I don't think the bottle opener is like OMG HATEFUL RACIST or anything -- it's just kind of tacky and lame and dumb-headed.
Once upon a time there was a famous black American athelete named Patrick Ewing who had large lips and huge nostrils, and I'd be willing to bet that at some point some artist was working on a caricature of him and then stopped and thought "hey, this image
just so happens to kinda resemble a lot of 'hilarious' (and please note totally 'affectionate') images of Africans in this country, so I guess I'll try a new angle here that maybe doesn't" -- that level of tact and basic historical awareness is, I think, all anyone is asking for here. Given the long history of the British and Americans making goofy figurines of those amusing funny-looking folks from other places in the world, I'd like to think that most people would find the bottle opener at least a LITTLE off-putting.
Further to that, there's the thing I was kind of hinting at with the World Cup squad jokes upthread, which is that in my personal experience, I can't say I've noticed any equivalent treatments of athletes (white or black, really) in such exaggerated figurines, and certainly not in figurines intended to serve any purpose other than sitting there and bobbling their heads, and so there actually IS some question in my mind about whether someone would do anything similar with a big-toothed European player. (Like I said, I have yet to see a postbox painted as Wayne Rooney or the Beckham's Bum Bottle Opener.) But that's kind of a side issue.
― nabisco, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:15 (nineteen years ago)