a 30 for 30 thread

also cant believe the coda at the end that tyson fought holyfield TWO MONTHS LATER?

yeah, this was kinda wack.

This Martina/Chris Evert one is much more interesting than I thought it would be based on the commercial. I hadn't even turned 10 yet when they were at the top of their game, so they always seemed a little before my time. I'm learning a lot.

yea despite feeling like it was made by lifetime, it was p good...made me think how male rival/friends could nvr be that open probably

there is really zero redeemable content in the steinbrenner one

didnt even consider that one

I'm halfway through it and I'm kind of torn. Part of it feels like a promotional film made by the Yankees...but then on the other hand, I kind of liked seeing such a loving portrayal of a team that so many people flat out hate. I dunno. I don't think it's all bad, but it's definitely pretty low down in terms of favorites.

Oh, and I finally saw the Martina/Chris Evert one. Didn't like the 'chick flick' feel at all, but loved the conversations between the two of them. Forgot how much I admired them both as a kid (my family were all tennis freaks, so I was pretty much born on a tennis court)...great footage. But yeah, could have done without the driving down a country road/rugged up in cozy sweaters sipping coffee...looked like a Tampax commercial for the most part.

I thought the Steinbrenner one was good! I liked that they included criticism of the new stadium's pricing, the sight lines, brought up the issues that let to his disassociation with the team, brought up concerns about the younger Steinbrenners, frequently talked about how the team is both loved and hated, talked about how divisive and impulsive Steinbrenner could be ... while at the same time creating a portrait of what exactly the fans were losing in both the stadium and in George.

idk ive heard all that stuff a billion times. think some reporter from teh post or somewhere mentioned with the incredible access kopple had she really couldve/shouldve come up with some more original content & i could not agree more

it's not been very good lately? Like since the little league ep.

idk ive heard all that stuff a billion times. think some reporter from teh post or somewhere mentioned with the incredible access kopple had she really couldve/shouldve come up with some more original content & i could not agree more

Oh, I agree with that much. But I liked all the footage of the workers and fans and stuff. I got a little verklempt. :(

But yeah, it has not been so hot lately.

lol deadspin link

http://deadspin.com/5646013/bengals-turn-into-actual-tigers-after-satanic-pact-maul-steelers-yeah

This fucking series.

The Terry Fox story?...holy cow. I didn't know anything about him before this. Incredible story. And of course I cried like a baby.

Yeah, the Terry Fox episode was a definite return to form. I had also never heard of him, guess I'm a little young.

the red sox one struck me as something that should be packaged and sold on nesn, not really fitting w/ the rest of this series imo. course, that is only from the like ~7 minutes of it i could bear to watch

Halfway through it. Wish it came with an optional 'no soundtrack' option. It's chopped up all to hell too, but I like the players talking abt the game. I'm trying to watch around all the bells and whistles.

i "liked" it because it's a classic turn of events but it didn't really add much of anything -- it was pretty much a highlight video that could've been sold by mlb, oh yeah with added bill simmons. there was like a total one minute of player interview footage.

The Red Sox one was brutally boring to me, especially after just having watched that same series of events in the equally boring Baseball documentary.

looking forward to the fernandomania one.

the petro/divacs one was great; as good as this series has been.

the two escobars is screening in nyc! forget where..

cinema village, i think

I was talking to a dude at a party about how I loved The Two Escobars and it turned out that he edited it!

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_la7i8qd07b1qe9rcro1_500.jpg

was looking at some stuff on espn.com about the jimmy the greek 30 for 30 and this is from the director's "personal statement"....anyway check the part in bold...have i COMPLETELY missed something in Bull Durham in the 30+ times I've seen that on cable???

Twenty-five years later I have the good fortune to look back and try to figure out the man, whom I first found so jarring and later came to feel a genuine affection for. More recently I have so many questions about “The Greek”—his rise to power as a commentator on that iconic pregame show and his swift fall from grace after his fateful remarks concerning African-American athletes. How was this odds maker and gambler able to make his profession seen so legitimate, almost the way Susan Sarandon made prostitution seem innocent in “Bull Durham?” How did he make his way to “The NFL Today show?” What was his appeal and how did the NFL feel about his presence on the show? But most importantly, how did he bring odds making and gambling out of the shadows to mainstream America?

Nah, she isn't a prostitute. She's a groupie.

lazy zing imo

the petro/divacs one was great; as good as this series has been.

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^otm

i suppose waiting for the series to end is appropriate before polling, but man it's tough to pick three from this collection, much less one.
a healthy dose of filler, sure; still one of the best regular series on tv tho'.

I've only seen about 3/4ths of the eps, so I don't feel like I judge fairly. Especially since I missed a couple that people really seem to like (Petro/Divacs and The Two Escobars among them).

2 escobars is among the very best

No doubt.

Wow. That Vlade ep was so powerful. Definitely right up there with Two Escobars.

Vlade walking in Zagreb was intense. Like, you know it's come along way that he can do that at all, but...wow.

Ugh I sound like a teenager. Words failing me left and right.

obv. no guarantee that it's well done but I would urge you to leave any possible anti-NASCAR feelings you might have aside and watch the 30 for 30 on the racer Tim Richmond, it has a lot of potential, his saga is some serious crazy tragic stuff

totes

I read that it is poorly done so I dunno.

Drazen was so dope.

yea i might let this thread sound off on this nascar 1 b4 i consider watching

I'm interested. But I like Nascar so w/e

The Richmond episode was quite good.

just watched the drazen/vlade and tim richmond docs back to back. they were great but i'm feeling pretty low now.

richmond was kind of a douche? like in every video prior to his contracting HIV. and his sister seems like a class-a jackass.
dude was totally within his rights to keep his illness out of the public eye, but he could've saved a lot of lives and been a real hero if he'd have been a stronger man.

word he kinda struck me as what a real life kenny powers would prob be like at times

would watch 30 for 30 ep about rl kenny powers

then u will like the tim richmond one.
"he had a special chair.... let's just say it was ADJUSTABLE into "DIFFERENT POSITIONS"

O_O

Like the George Clooney, "Burn After Reading" chair?

Someone should really do a huge, sprawling documentary series on the history of NASCAR (at least up through the early 90s). You wouldn't believe how seedy that world was. Richmond doc didn't spend enough time on the nasty shit like how he knowingly passed AIDS onto a bunch of women, or how the NASCAR old guard conspired to kick him out of the sport.

well, they touch on the POSSIBILITY that he knowingly passed AIDS along
and it's worth noting that doc is produced by NASCAR and reads like a preemptive strike, right down to the muted louganis interviews.
just can't get over the hubris of the sister saying something like "these days if you have HIV it's like you're a HERO"

Yeah I think as mild as they made the Richmond doc, it's def an advertisement for awareness/activism. It doesn't go far enough, but it reminds you of how weirded out everyone was about AIDS, I was only little but I remember being terrified of it bc of commercials and news stories.

Made me think about the choice to educate & be an activist, like Lougainis or Magic, versus the road Richmond & others took, hiding and being ashamed. The people he was surrounded by, that sport especially, I understand he felt he had to, and you see what a huge leap of faith it would be for him to be open. Especially if maybe he didn't understand it himself. the way his sister talks about "the AIDS" I got the impression she didn't learn more than she needed to know about it during or after. There's that undercurrent of "why did it have to be that".

It just really gets to me how much shame a *disease* could bring to a person's life, you know? You think about how long did he wait to get tested, maybe he was afraid to, or feared it being public, but fuck... It kills me thinking of him just hiding with it, dying with it. I know there's been millions like him, fuck...it just really gets to me, no matter who it is.

Sorry for rambling

Would love to see a NASCAR documentary series btw.

Lol, "Ken Burns' NASCAR". If only.