2008 Primaries Thread 3: The Rejecting and Denouncening

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Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 22 March 2008 01:10 (eighteen years ago)

Third, accuse our campaign of having something to do with Senator Obama's passport file being breached, a reckless charge that has zero merit.

huh?

deej, Saturday, 22 March 2008 01:12 (eighteen years ago)

apparently matt drudge is part of the obama campaign now??

i dunno either

ciderpress, Saturday, 22 March 2008 01:15 (eighteen years ago)

at this point their chutzpah impresses me much more than it provokes, so that's a huge step in the right direction.

Cosmo Vitelli, Saturday, 22 March 2008 01:20 (eighteen years ago)

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kingfish, Saturday, 22 March 2008 01:24 (eighteen years ago)

If you click through on the SNL link it's to a Hilz sockpuppet site.

suzy, Saturday, 22 March 2008 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

Does the Hillary campaign have any policies of their own other than Don't Vote For Obama?

StanM, Saturday, 22 March 2008 07:22 (eighteen years ago)

lolololz @ Fox & Friends anchor trying desperately to avoid saying "typical black person"

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 22 March 2008 08:47 (eighteen years ago)

“Mr. Richardson’s endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic,” Mr. Carville said, referring to Holy Week.

G00blar, Saturday, 22 March 2008 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

^^^Cajun Style^^^

G00blar, Saturday, 22 March 2008 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

cold shit

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 22 March 2008 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

So Hillary is Jesus now?

I love it when James Carville tries to do irony.

suzy, Saturday, 22 March 2008 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

It's like him trying to grow hair.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 22 March 2008 13:07 (eighteen years ago)

now that the revotes are dead people are starting to say this thing is over. sorry if this was posted already.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9149.html

Unless Clinton is able to at least win the primary popular vote — which also would take nothing less than an electoral miracle — and use that achievement to pressure superdelegates, she has only one scenario for victory. An African-American opponent and his backers would be told that, even though he won the contest with voters, the prize is going to someone else.

People who think that scenario is even remotely likely are living on another planet.

As it happens, many people inside Clinton’s campaign live right here on Earth. One important Clinton adviser estimated to Politico privately that she has no more than a 10 percent chance of winning her race against Barack Obama, an appraisal that was echoed by other operatives.

In other words: The notion of the Democratic contest being a dramatic cliffhanger is a game of make-believe.

dmr, Saturday, 22 March 2008 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

“They’re looking ahead and saying: Is it possible this thing is just going to drip, drip, drip, drip — more video? Where does that leave us if he’s our presumptive nominee and he’s limping into the convention and the Republicans are just read to go on him, double-barreled?”

I've been thinking about this. I don't know who unearthed the original videos but presumably there's more out there.

31g, Saturday, 22 March 2008 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

Of course there are, but the LBJ and Clinton pics have balanced that out. People might just get bored of Wright as a whipping boy for Obama or anyone else. It is more than unfair.

suzy, Saturday, 22 March 2008 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

It is more than unfair.

I get the sense that this won't stop them.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 22 March 2008 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't think the Corner could startle me anymore, but leave it to John Derbyshire:

I don't get the sensitivity and slack-cutting towards Obama that Charles Murray's post typified. Obama's the enemy — a far-left Democrat. We should be attacking him at every weak point. That's politics.

A pro-Obama emailer whines to me that the Pastor Wright business is "a Swift Boating of Obama." Well, duh!

Rock Hardy, Saturday, 22 March 2008 23:50 (eighteen years ago)

realpolitik is so fucking refreshing

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 22 March 2008 23:51 (eighteen years ago)

At least he's honest about it. I appreciate his candor.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 22 March 2008 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

It's more direct than Hanson's endless stream of essays all week over there.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 23 March 2008 00:08 (eighteen years ago)

dumb question, but if obama wins the primary (and he will, barring some strange unforseen event), will clinton hop on board and help out in the general? or do you think she'll pull a lieberman or even something a little less obvious and continue to try to dig up shit on obama, just cos.

i mean, i don't believe there's much chance of the latter happening, but given how craven she and her campaign have been of late, i start to wonder.

amateurist, Sunday, 23 March 2008 00:40 (eighteen years ago)

I assume she'd help Obama in the GE, to salvage the Clinton brand, if nothing else. I've seen some blogger speculate that HRC would rather McCain beat Obama in the GE, so the Clinton's maintain control of the Democratic party, but if she sat on the sidelines, I think she'd severely damage her standing in the party.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 23 March 2008 00:47 (eighteen years ago)

John Derbyshire is openly racist! I guess you can argue that it's worth paying attention to what the other side is saying, but ugggggggh i'd rather not, and there's definitely no reason to be surprised by anything he says.

31g, Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:01 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, dig around over the last two weeks on Orcinus. Dave Neiwert's been tracking this shit for a while.

kingfish, Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:32 (eighteen years ago)

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/032208DailyUpdateGraph1.gif

suzy, Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:33 (eighteen years ago)

!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:42 (eighteen years ago)

lol these gallup polls

J0rdan S., Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:43 (eighteen years ago)

wtf does that even mean at this point

J0rdan S., Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:43 (eighteen years ago)

i mean look at the rest of that graph

J0rdan S., Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:43 (eighteen years ago)

it's a waltz man

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:47 (eighteen years ago)

resilience!

The Reverend, Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:49 (eighteen years ago)

I'd just like it to start looking less like DNA helix okthxbai

suzy, Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:59 (eighteen years ago)

http://yeswecanhas.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/happycat2.jpg

suzy, Sunday, 23 March 2008 07:42 (eighteen years ago)

heh.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/22/211412/654/668/482425

amateurist, Sunday, 23 March 2008 08:02 (eighteen years ago)

I wish those graphs had error bars

kingfish, Sunday, 23 March 2008 08:13 (eighteen years ago)

will clinton hop on board and help out in the general?

Would YOU want help from people like this if you were Obama?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/22/us/politics/22cnd-obama.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Mr. Clinton, in a speech to voters in North Carolina on Friday, said “it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country.”

StanM, Sunday, 23 March 2008 09:57 (eighteen years ago)

What I don't understand is how the Dem. party leadership even allows this kind of crap anymore.

StanM, Sunday, 23 March 2008 10:00 (eighteen years ago)

gosh they really smell blood the obama camp is jumping at everything, which is exactly what they should do.

tremendoid, Sunday, 23 March 2008 10:05 (eighteen years ago)

This "loving your country" stuff is coming from a guy who got his d*ck sucked in the Oval Office, the ultimate symbol of American democracy, while he was the president - srsly, how can anyone swallow any of this, especially from him?

StanM, Sunday, 23 March 2008 10:15 (eighteen years ago)

do people still srsly hold that agin him?? i've only recently 'wrapped my head' around how skeevy the whole thing was. i found it really boring back then for some reason.

tremendoid, Sunday, 23 March 2008 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

i was well attuned to how full of shit the repub leadership by the time impeachment came around. now that was fascinating. Henry Hyde, the rest of those eberts, my own local congressman Jim Rogan who I'd theretofore thought of as generally earnest for a republican, as he'd come to my college to speak where I asked him some lefty question and he batted me down with logic. Jim was religious about taking Clinton down, weird stuff.

tremendoid, Sunday, 23 March 2008 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

I just thought he'd be one of the last to be allowed to talk about loving his country or respecting the voters, considering what he did. But people forgive and forget (or, probably: don't give a shit)

StanM, Sunday, 23 March 2008 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

(xpost)

and now the Clintons are (ok, indirectly) campaigning for the republican candidate, ain't that something?

StanM, Sunday, 23 March 2008 10:30 (eighteen years ago)

re: Rogan so ironic he got taken out by Adam Schiff, Bill Clinton's brunette doppelgänger.

tremendoid, Sunday, 23 March 2008 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

if i have my districts right

tremendoid, Sunday, 23 March 2008 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

This "loving your country" stuff is coming from a guy who got his d*ck sucked in the Oval Office, the ultimate symbol of American democracy, while he was the president - srsly, how can anyone swallow any of this

Find the joke here.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 23 March 2008 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

and now the Clintons are (ok, indirectly) campaigning for the republican candidate, ain't that something?

you're the one playing Ken Starr here

dmr, Sunday, 23 March 2008 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

I like Suzy's pussy-cat picture.

the pinefox, Sunday, 23 March 2008 15:17 (eighteen years ago)


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