― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Meaning what?
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link
the tories obviously have some link with the lived experience of working people, otherwise working people, including union members, wouldn't vote tory in large numbers.
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link
Or maybe he's just a right wing cunt.
― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hello Cthulhu (kate), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Riot Clone, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes, it means that the Tories are more likely to win
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Why?
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link
What makes you think they'd be inclined to vote Labour if they were to vote Dada?
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Because the people who put New Labour in power are Tory voters at heart.
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link
But when the Bee-Enned Peas are doing well it tends to be in poorer areas doesn't it? The poorer and younger you are the easier it is to nudge you rightwards (or rather reactionary behaviour, rather than conservatism itself), no?
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Progressive politics: is what is needed
Bill of RightsPR voting systemscrap ID cards [this is new labour's poll tax..that will ultimately lead to their downfall]scrap tuition feesintroduce 50p top band of tax for over 100K incomeTax incentives for business that create jobs in Britain..and penalties for those that outsource British jobs outside of EUget out of Iraq
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link
If there's no chance of it happening then how is it any more of a surefire way of them winning than say, all Tories switching their votes to Labour?
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link
Then they can be all 'hray' when they do.
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Basically, people end up voting for whoever they think is going to win.
except the people who vote Lib Dem etc?
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link
Flourishes is putting it a bit strongly
― Dadaismus, the Male Poster (Dada), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
it's a good job we've got Putin and covid, because otherwise this card would be trying to use the 2008 financial crisis as an excuse for maintaining the austerity consensus.
― calzino, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 12:35 (one year ago) link
Fucking using a Theresa May attack line from 2017 as a reason voters don’t deserve anything except more penury
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 12:37 (one year ago) link
I saw an amusing little sideshow on twitter yesterday. Babs had deleted a lie tweet about her buying her first home at the age of 20 after someone pointed out she had many times previously given a different autobiographical version of events. lol, these people who lose themselves in lies.
― calzino, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 12:52 (one year ago) link
In other words, it's the most popular option pic.twitter.com/e7DnElioS7— P.G. Chodehouse (@mynnoj) May 2, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 13:40 (one year ago) link
Hilary Clinton derided it as "Chocolate milk for everybody!" when Bernie Sanders proposed it in the US. It doesn't matter how popular a policy is to these corporate ghouls.
― calzino, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 13:48 (one year ago) link
Some legitimate concerns are more, er, legitimate than others.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link
The Labour leader said it was “early days” for the Public Order Act, under which the group was detained for 16 hours before being released and told no charges would be brought. Rather than committing to repeal the legislation, Starmer suggested fresh guidance could make improvements amid concerns it was being used to clamp down on dissent.“The police have obviously apologised in relation to some of those cases,” he said. “They’re a difficult judgment call, we all understand why action has to be taken in relation to Just Stop Oil and that sort of tactic but on our hand obviously we need to protect legitimate protests, so it’s a judgment call.“They got some of those judgments wrong, as they have accepted, and I think that’s a learning experience for them, as we go forward we need to ensure there’s perhaps better guidance or something.”
“The police have obviously apologised in relation to some of those cases,” he said. “They’re a difficult judgment call, we all understand why action has to be taken in relation to Just Stop Oil and that sort of tactic but on our hand obviously we need to protect legitimate protests, so it’s a judgment call.
“They got some of those judgments wrong, as they have accepted, and I think that’s a learning experience for them, as we go forward we need to ensure there’s perhaps better guidance or something.”
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 18:42 (one year ago) link
You could stop Just Stop Oil by stopping new drilling licences, no police state necessary
― contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 18:49 (one year ago) link
“better guidance or something”
― michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link
let's not be too rash to judge the embryonic UK fascist police state, it's early days yet says the unscrupulous cunt who also has history of not judging a hate mob, who were burning effigies of GRT children.
― calzino, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link
Well it’s not like they did anything really bad like steal some water
― michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
― michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 bookmarkflaglink
😬😬😬
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link
The other sensible labour counter seems to be that actually many of the protesters were arrested under the policing act of last year not the public order act & it’s like no shit you gallus pricks, we want that fascist law repealed too
― michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link
It was a whole thing!!
― michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/11/female-labour-mp-accuses-shadow-minister-of-sexual-assault
She is reluctant to make a formal complaint through Labour’s own independent complaints system, although she was encouraged to, as she felt his popularity within the party would not help her case.
This does not sound good in any way.
― the pinefox, Friday, 12 May 2023 10:51 (one year ago) link
so she's basically saying Labour's independent complaints system tends to ignore serious complaints made against MP's if they are high profile front benchers, colour me surprised.
― calzino, Friday, 12 May 2023 11:03 (one year ago) link
For gods' sake please don't vote for this cunt
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/labour-real-conservatives-keir-starmer-protect-way-life-2337576
― contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 May 2023 05:57 (one year ago) link
I always thought the only reason he didn't join the Conservative Party was a sense of embarrassment about his stupid Labour history geek name. But at least now he explains why he didn't need to do it.
― calzino, Saturday, 13 May 2023 06:26 (one year ago) link
>>> insisting his party’s transformation will be like “Clause IV on steroids” – a reference to Sir Tony’s decision to abandon the goal of common ownership of industry – with a focus on putting communities “in charge of their own destiny” and a reformed state.
Sir Keir will offer a personal view of his own patriotism, based on understanding the “true worth of service, respect and stability” and criticise those who harbour “patronising contempt for those who fly our flag”. <<<
― the pinefox, Saturday, 13 May 2023 08:00 (one year ago) link
Would anyone actually say "I'm going to do [X] - on steroids!" ?
Only KS.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 13 May 2023 08:01 (one year ago) link
"I'm going to do the Olympic 100 metres final on steroids."
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 May 2023 08:18 (one year ago) link
:D
― the pinefox, Saturday, 13 May 2023 08:32 (one year ago) link
"on steroids" in this case really means all the most negative and reactionary aspects of New Labour but this time not propping up poverty wages with tax credits and fully committed to the austerity consensus, so not dissimilar to the May govt. Which Tory govts of the last decade are the *real* conservatives is a more of a pertinent question for the DM and Con Home, it shouldn't be a pitch made a year before a GE by the leader of a supposed party of Labour. Grim times for democracy.
― calzino, Saturday, 13 May 2023 08:48 (one year ago) link
He’s like Theresa May on Imodium
― michel goindry (wins), Saturday, 13 May 2023 09:01 (one year ago) link
lol, Theresa May - without the charisma
― calzino, Saturday, 13 May 2023 09:04 (one year ago) link
I saw a Kieth supporter responding to Tory twitter taunts about the sexual assault by one of the shadow cabinet and lack of action taken thereof, and they responded with "but what about the rapist in the Tory party, eh?"
― calzino, Saturday, 13 May 2023 09:12 (one year ago) link
He's a cunt like (most of) the rest of his party
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 13 May 2023 09:21 (one year ago) link
xp i saw that too calz. tell me you don't care about sexual violence without telling me etc
― contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 May 2023 09:59 (one year ago) link
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2023/05/26/TELEMMGLPICT000337204253_16851076279810_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqRo0U4xU-30oDveS4pXV-Vv4Xpit_DMGvdp2n7FDd82k.jpeg
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 26 May 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link
lol, nice juxtaposition there
― calzino, Friday, 26 May 2023 15:20 (one year ago) link
It was great to catch up with my friend @CondoleezzaRice to discuss China, Ukraine and the Global South at this moment of huge geopolitical change. pic.twitter.com/Nl5Qd4hhTP— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) September 7, 2023
― the pinefox, Friday, 8 September 2023 14:12 (nine months ago) link
it's a club and we're not in it
― School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 September 2023 14:13 (nine months ago) link