Robert Mitchum C/D, S/D

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El Dorado - Pretty awesome Howard Hawks movie with both Mitchum AND John Wayne underplaying. Also James Caan. A Man's movie.

ha, see a recent item by me on Freaky Trigger (Do You See section) giving another angle on this.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 15 August 2003 20:12 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.meredy.com/vinbw/night.jpg

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:02 (twenty years ago) link

I've been on ILE too long. Mitchum looks like Gareth on the album cover upthread.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:21 (twenty years ago) link

I think it's the fine Jamaican rum what's got into you.

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

"I have three expressions. Looking right, looking left, and looking straight ahead."

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:35 (twenty years ago) link

But the picture above belies that!

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

Mitchum looks like Gareth on the album cover upthread.

http://www.westworld.com/~mmw/rm/price/western.gif

"I kill you with muzzleloaders"

Sommermute (Wintermute), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

He is clearly looking left!

"Years ago, I saved up a million dollars from acting—a lot of money then—and I spent it all on a horse farm in Tucson. Now when I go down there, I look at the place and I realize my whole acting career adds up to a million dollars worth of horseshit."

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

He is clearly looking left!

Yes, but his head is cocked! Where is that covered in his harsh taxonomy?


Where are you getting this quotes, TH?

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:38 (twenty years ago) link

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/cinedestin/films/u/uns/unsidouxvisage.jpg

in Angel Face with Jean Simmons


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http://members.aol.com/PJaySin/mitchum2.jpg

in River of No Return with Marilyn Monroe

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:41 (twenty years ago) link

"Lean was convinced that nobody could be a sincere ack-tor and fool around on the set like I did. So he shouted, 'Roll them,' or whatever they say over there, 'Ack-shun.' And I did this pretty tender scene in one take. Lean was decimated. Had tears in his eyes. 'I cahn't tell you how luv-ly that was,' he said. I shrugged and said, 'You don't think it was too Jewish?' What did he expect at those prices?

"Somebody says, 'We really want you to do this script.' And I say, 'I'd need an awful lot of money in front to do that one.' And that never seems to be a problem. The less I like the script, the higher my price. And they pay. They may pay in yen, but they pay. Not that I'm a complete whore, understand. There are movies I won't do for any amount. I turned down 'Patton' and I turned down 'Dirty Harry.' Movies that piss on the world. If I've got $5 in my pocket, I don't need to make money that fucking way, daddy."

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:42 (twenty years ago) link

I found em on the future-web! I was looking for this anecdote, from an interview with Yaphet Kotto:
One of the things Dean Martin used to say was, who gives less of a shit, Kotto, or Mitchum? And I think Mitchum kind of outdid me. We had these bungalows together, right next door and I went to get him one night to go eat. I go over there and knock on the door. He said, "Who the hell is it?" and I said "Kotto." And I go in, and he's just sitting there on the edge of the bed, and I notice that the room is dark, and it's cold. And I said, what are you doing here in the dark, and he said, there's no lights. I said why is it so cold, and he said, there's no heat. So I said, Bob, why don't you get someone to turn on the heat? Why don't you get someone to turn on the lights? And he just sat there on the edge of the bed, and said, "Fuck em." He would have gone on right that way. That's how much he didn't care.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 18 August 2003 20:48 (twenty years ago) link

River of No Return, wasn't nuts about that one.

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 18 August 2003 21:29 (twenty years ago) link

Oh my god, Tracer, those are just priceless.

rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 02:20 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
robert mitchum cycle in paris later this month!!

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 27 November 2003 23:42 (twenty years ago) link

"The only difference between me and my fellow actors is that I've spent more time in jail."

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 27 November 2003 23:57 (twenty years ago) link

"People think I have an interesting walk. Hell, I'm just trying to hold my gut in."

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 27 November 2003 23:57 (twenty years ago) link

the last movie in the cycle is "the yakuza"!!

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 27 November 2003 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

The best part of that Salon piece/interview:

"I've been called a cynic, which I surely can't deny because I am a cynical-style girl. I happen to believe a certain amount of cynicism is inherent in the beast. But there's a little romanticism in there, too. And more than a little hedonism. You can use this to sum it all up: I know what I'm doing is bullshit. But I've got to admit, it's also a pretty good ride."

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 28 November 2003 00:13 (twenty years ago) link

Shouting out again for The Yakuza which is just a fantastic movie. Also search out the oddball war movie Anzio (with Peter Falk!) and What A Way To Go!

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 28 November 2003 00:19 (twenty years ago) link

btw he is not really my favorite actor that would be henry fonda but i still love him

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 28 November 2003 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

Not too much too add to the above.

"The Big Steal" is a great film, with William Bendix and Jane Greer. He calls Greer "chiquita" during the whole movie. Very nice.

"Calypso Is Like So" is awesome, I just got a brand-new Mitchum CD with that entire work on it. Also, Robert Mitchum, for what it's worth, did the best-ever version of "Sunny."

One of the greatest all-rounders ever. The deodorant works good too.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 28 November 2003 00:23 (twenty years ago) link

where can i get mitchum deodorant??

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 28 November 2003 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

"Night of the Hunter" fuckin rocks. Thanks to Amateurist, I now have a lot more movies on my "must see" list. Awesome!

sucka (sucka), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:42 (twenty years ago) link

robert mitchum is probably my all-time cinema crush. he sang the theme song to 'thunder road' ("the ballad of thunder road"): "there was moonshine, moonshine to quench the devil's thirst/the law they swore they'd get him but the devil got him first."

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:58 (twenty years ago) link

that's the best song!

s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 28 November 2003 03:04 (twenty years ago) link

"the ballad of thunder road" and "little ol winedrinker me" are the two songs that make it VERY DIFFICULT for me to believe it's actually mitchum's voice on that calypso record

jones (actual), Friday, 28 November 2003 03:06 (twenty years ago) link

haha x-post i am so dead!!

jones (actual), Friday, 28 November 2003 03:09 (twenty years ago) link

JONES!!!!!!!!

s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 28 November 2003 03:12 (twenty years ago) link

don't get me wrong: even when he's actually some poor nameless guy from trinidad mitchum totally rules

jones (actual), Friday, 28 November 2003 03:22 (twenty years ago) link

I was living down in L.A. and I got a call from David Lean and Bobby Bolt about playing the schoolteacher. They told me there would be a rather protracted period in Ireland, and I figured there must be some Irish actors who could use the job, so I said, "Well thatnks, but no thank you." And they said , "Do you have other plans?" I said, "As a matter of fact, I was planning suicide." So David said, "Bob, if you would simply do this wretched film of ours, I would be happy to stand the expense of your burial." I said, "I'll be right there."

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 28 November 2003 04:45 (twenty years ago) link

angel face is so fucking great

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

nine months pass...
"you look like you're in trouble."
"why?"
"because you don't look like it."

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link

- 'out of the past'.

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Watched Night of the Hunter again a couple of weeks ago, and man, does that movie kick ass.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link

i like thye part in "out of the past" where douglas asks if mitchum wants a smoke, and mitchum holds up his lit cigarette and says, "smoking."

seriously every film noir should end with every major character hospitalized for lung cancer.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 3 September 2004 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link

out of the past was on tcm the other day. good god, do i love mitchum.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

"is there any way to win?"

"there's a way to lose more slowly."

amateur!!st, Friday, 17 September 2004 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Definitely worth seeking out: the Dave Hickey essay "Mitchum Gets Out of Jail," originally published in Art Issues, reprinted in the (so-so) anthology "O.K. You Mugs":

"Among the likes of Jimmy Stewart, Henry Fonda, and Ronald Reagan, he was like a switchblade on a plate of cupcakes."

Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

i dunno, jimmy stewart had his crazed neurotic period

amateur!!st, Friday, 17 September 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

also: ronald reagan? the b-list actor?

amateur!!st, Friday, 17 September 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the list of other actors is meant to indicate people who, in different ways, played "men." Y'know?

Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

More:

"Mitchum is always playing a presence, a moral creature, incarcerated by the text, and when it works, he burns a hole in the screen, invests the vacant platitudes of professional screenwriting with something dark and strange, simply because he is not playing by the rules: he is obeying the rules, of course, as any convict must. He is hitting his marks, making the moves and saying the words, but he is not acting by the the rules, not deriving the subtext from the text."

Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

a diabolical shit.

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

my dream man.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 23:15 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i have that calypso album. I also use mitchum deodorant (coincidentally) he and orson welles are pretty much my favorite people ever, and also is my sexual ideal. i've probably seen night of the hunter a billion times.

\(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 23 September 2004 09:18 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
TCM is doing a Bob Mitchum thing this week. Has anyone read that bio? I think it's got an Elvis song as it's title- You're So Square?

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Baby I Don't Care

Marxism Goes Better With Coke (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

So you know what? I believe P!tchf0rk writer R0b M!tchum is in actual fact casually related to the ORM (Original Robert Mitchum).

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i just watched and greatly enjoyed the noir/message picture Crossfire, but Robert Ryan is actually the main guy in that. Robert Young is in it too. Ryan is excellent, and Gloria Grahame is good in the typical Gloria Grahame B-girl role. Mitchum is OK, but like I said, it's not really his picture.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 03:48 (eighteen years ago) link

"Sure I was glad to see John Wayne win the Oscar … I`m always glad to see the fat lady win the Cadillac on TV, too.”

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link

lmao

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

Checked the Server bio out of the library; I'm pleased to see that his prose is better than the average star biographer's.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

What'd you expect?

Two-Headed Shindog (Rad Tempo Player) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

Crap.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 10:53 (six years ago) link

Man, "The Wonderful Country" is something else. Up there for me with "One Eyed Jacks" as one of the great ugly duckling '50s Westerns.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link

Mitchum's scene where he turns down his assignment from Pedro Armendariz is great

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link

Yes. And he got some nice new threads out of him before splitting :)

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link

man I'd forgotten the hype around The Winds of War. The end of the epic TV movie era came witth a bang.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link

Even at the very height of my Mitchum obsession I saw a DVD box of that and thought "life's too short".

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 5 October 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link

River of No Return, wasn't nuts about that one.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, August 18, 2003 5:29 PM (

agreed

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 October 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link

Liked a few moments but yeah

Commandolin Wind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 October 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link

Notable Mitchum character names from the 1940s:

Quentin 'Horse' Gilford
Tate Winters
Henchman Randall
Dirk Mason
Panhandle Mitchell
Ben Slocum
Trigger Dolan
Henchman Rip Austin
Seaman Chuck Ryan
Mickey Halligan
Dying Soldier - 'I'm All Right'
Nick Drago
'Pig-Iron' Matthews
Jim Lacy aka Nevada
Pecos Smith
Jeb Rand

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Sunday, 15 October 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link

The Winds of War was a miniseries, right? i'm sure Bob snored through it.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 October 2017 23:50 (six years ago) link

when he wasn't freezing his ass off and getting eaten by ticks during the year (!) of filming, according to the bio

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 October 2017 23:55 (six years ago) link

And that presumably doesn't include War and Remembrance.

I do recall David Letterman was tickled when TWOW won an Emmy and the producer gruffly thanked the network for "ponying up the dough!"

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 October 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link

speaking of those I can't believe Herman Wouk is still alive.

nomar, Monday, 16 October 2017 00:29 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Dan Milner: Whenever I have nothing to do and I can't think, I always iron my money.
Lenore Brent: What d'ya do when you're broke?
Dan Milner: When I'm broke, I press my pants.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 30 November 2018 00:50 (five years ago) link

six months pass...
two years pass...

30 of his films on Criterion right now.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 November 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link

Enjoyed the Lusty Men. He’s great in it

Heez, Sunday, 14 November 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link

Yeah, like that one too.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 November 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link

Just watched the two films he did with director John Farrow:

Where Danger Lives a simple but very good noir, featuring Faith Domergue. Mitchum is semi-zonked for much of the film after getting brained by Claude Rains.

His Kind of Woman an odd 2-hour long film that starts as straight noir and then Vincent Price's ham actor character hijacks it and turns it into a comedic spoof. Has some cool interior design.

And then watched Track of the Cat which is florid and awkward and oh-so-1950s. Not for me.

Josefa, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 00:34 (two years ago) link

Also watched Angel Face which is a little nutty but I liked seeing Jean Simmons in the bad girl role, it seems to go against character.

Josefa, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 00:46 (two years ago) link

*against type I mean

Josefa, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 00:47 (two years ago) link

Watched out of the past oh Saturday. Absolute stone cold classic. Five bags of popcorn and a bunch of cigarettes for Bob Mitchum to smoke

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:02 (two years ago) link

Feel like I live-blogged a stretch of His Kind of Woman once, maybe upthread.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:05 (two years ago) link

Howzabout the, um, sequel to Out of the Past, The Big Steal?

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:14 (two years ago) link

I highly recommend Pursued which is not in the CC series

Josefa, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:26 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

His Kind of Woman an odd 2-hour long film that starts as straight noir and then Vincent Price's ham actor character hijacks it and turns it into a comedic spoof. Has some cool interior design

I posted almost exactly this earlier this morning on the noir thread! I saw this movie eons ago, 1980s I believe, and in the intervening years I forgot the title, the plot, and the stars. All I could remember was the fantastic mid-mod set design of the Mexican lodge, and that the action later moved to a boat. Finally tracked it down last night! Allegedly it was Howard Hughes' meddling and reshoots that led to the incoherent combination of violent hypodermic attacks and shipboard slapstick in the finale.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link


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