Jean-Luc Godard: S and D

mayne swinging for zing thread

swingin' for a zingin'

Corman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hughes

^^always hoped the day wld come that i cld agree w morbs abt something, and this is that happy day! even if you discount all the fucking great movies corman directed, no other producer can claim to have given so many notable young directors their first proper break in the biz (coppola, hellman, towne, dante, scorsese, demme etc etc)

if u discount the movies u have no argument whatsoever! he gave ppl starts, yay!

better to say like french critics that his films were "desperate cries from the heart of a grotesque fastfood culture", a phrase i like to pass off as my own while applying it to whatever the current topic is.

Sixteen Candles vs The Masque of the Red Death

is Chic-Fil-A shedding tears?

k, having been to Atlanta last month I know what Chick-Fil-A is, but huh?

"desperate cries from the heart of a grotesque fastfood culture"

A dispatch from the grotesque fast food culture.

One opened on campus a few weeks ago – still haven't tried it.

oh i guess

can't wait for nrq's "zing" after these Oscars on merits of Godard second-class award vs Corey Haim tribute

Chick-Fil-A = crinkle fries + pickle on chicken sandwich + weird Christian bent

xps

would rather watch the Lost Boys than Pierrot le Fou again tbqh

i met kevin brownlow -- very briefly -- this summer. true story.

winstanley >>>> any fucking godard film post-1967 imho

I had no idea Corey Haim was in Winstanley

if u discount the movies u have no argument whatsoever! he gave ppl starts, yay!

oh right, they don't give out 'honorary' oscars to producers, then?

but don't let me keep you from making hilar generalisations abt 'french film critics'

omg beef

The Thalberg award goes to producers, right?

Film Socialisme got me drunk on movies high-definition video again

how anti-semitic on a scale 1-10

just right, like the porridge Goldilocks chose

(I think some of the walkouts that seemed to occur whenever a PALESTINE title went on the screen made me think "well, old Jews, Lincoln Center...")

yeh i was glad glen kenny 'went there' re jlg's anti-semitism. 'lol european intellectuals' basic'ly.

more like anti-Israel imho

Kenny was quoting somebody, mostly

No, there's def. stuff in FS that goes beyond anti-Israel. At least in the fan-subtitled version. Not sure how it's rendered in "Navajo English".

i dunno the 'gold mountain' gag doesn't sound too much related to israel

How completely arrogantly inscrutable is it on a scale of In Praise of Love to Notre Musique?

I didn't mind Notre Musique. If you're willing to yield to the trance-like state the film induces.

yeah I liked Musique far better of those two

in the panel discussion after FS, I discovered that Richard Brody has an unruly Catskills-socialist beard

As Vanessa Redgrave might say, here come da Jews!

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/movies/02godard.html

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/movies/2010/11/the-oscar-question.html

Researchers at the academy’s Margaret Herrick Library turned up no sign that any aspect of a Godard film had ever been so much as nominated for an Oscar, despite awards and festival recognition abroad.

Haha, an Oscar nod for a Godard film? Get real, researchers!

As Vanessa Redgrave might say, here come da Jews!

ugh

but also lol: anti-semitism not exactly unknown among upper-class brits, let alone upper-class british trotskyists

Do you know the whole Redgrave story of the '77/78 Oscars, nrq?

not in detail. -- s.thing about "zionists" getting on her nerves? because zionists are really the enemy of the jews or whatever, presumably? because zionism, unlike palestinian nationalism, is a terrible thing. her opponents of the time sound pretty crazy, but we shouldn't have to choose between crazies. she was part of a weird, sinister, sexual-abuse-oriented trotskyist cell at the time.

Look, whatever it takes to make for an interesting Oscarcast.

Oscarcaust.

it's sort of useless to present someone with an honorary award, if he hates the entire thing it represents right. I wouldn't have bothered if I "was" the Academy, or whoever decides who gets these things.

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Mr. Godard has blamed Moses for having corrupted society by bringing mere text, in the form of written law, down from the mountain, after having encountered an actual image, the burning bush.

WAHT

he was expecting a graphic novel.

The Godard award is not on the Oscarcast, Eric, and I'm pretty sure we'll see 6 seconds of tape of JLG's chosen flunky picking it up.

For Mr. Robinson, the art and the artist are separate. “D. W. Griffith got an honorary Oscar in 1936,” he said, “and the man was horribly racist. Also, Kevin Costner? What a dick.”

btw to me that Times piece confirms that Tarantino will present Godard's Oscar

you must be psyched

Watched Une Femme Mariee the other week. A cracker! The accompanying booklet -- which looks lush, btw -- has a transcript of an internet convo between a few film theorists, and I'm willing to bet its crackers.

Mr. Godard has blamed Moses for having corrupted society by bringing mere text, in the form of written law, down from the mountain, after having encountered an actual image, the burning bush.

Big fan of Celine, isn't he?

Jungen: Once again, there is a debate in Jewish newspapers about whether or not you are an anti-Semite. Does this hurt you?

Godard: That's nonsense! What does 'anti-Semite' mean? All peoples of the Mediterranean were Semites. So anti-Semite means anti-Mediterranean. The expression was only applied to Jews after the Holocaust and WWII. It is inexact and means nothing.

this smirky evasive shit really makes me sick and upset

only anti-semites come out with that shit, fuck this guy

cue morbs for the defence

boooooooooooooooring

what's boring?