Buffy

Kevin, you had the Oz/Willow episode or the silent one yet? Because if not then wow are you in for some good shit. And then the last couple ones, with the Oz one, the Jonathon one, the finale to the season arc, and then the cheese guy where Giles sings one. Basically best tv show ever.

i think i'm overrating 6 cause i'm drunk tbh

i'd say prob 3>4>6>5>2>>>>>>7>1

well oz and willow broke up already, and yeah "hush" was A++++

last one i watched was the one after the ethan ep

5 > 4 > 2 > 6 >>>>>> 7 >>>>>>>> 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1

So... The Initiative is starting to become a proper thing then?

Melissa are you trolling or did you put that 3 in the wrong place or?

wait no the last one i watched was the ethan one, where SPOILER ALERT giles turns into a demon

xp melissa explain your disrespect for season 3 immediately!

It just doesn't stand out to me. It doesn't really have any of the great episodes that most of the other scenes do, and the whole Faith arc was ultra-boring. And then there's all that pointless Angel angst that leads to nothing. And I think it has the weakest finale of any season.

scenes=seasons

my favorite part of hush is when riley smashes the thing and looks up all proudly and buffy is like

".............we are just not hearing each other are we"

best summation of communication probs in relationships ever on television

i think i like viscerally disagree with everything you said, except about the finale (which was still very good, though pt 1 was better)

xp

Also, it's both less funny and less dramatic than all of the other seasons (other than 1). I can't really think of a season 3 episode that I love like Hush or Restless or The Body.

i mean like "amends" "graduation day pt 1" "consequences" etc just off the dome

to be fair i thought "innocence" was in season 3 for some reason, love that one

less funny? but it has band candy and earshot and willowvamp as a fuzzy bunny!

Was never really fond of those episodes.

That is wacky imo.

i should really revisit this show. I watched it all as it unfolded but have never rewatched the series.

ok, season 3 has The Zeppo. Also, The Prom episode makes me cry. The Mayor is the best villain they ever had. Season 3 dud episodes not crap as Season 2 dud episodes.

The Zeppo is about Xander and thus automatically dud. Always thought The Prom was cheap and the Mayor the cheapest of all.

also Lover's Walk.

Zeppo was amazing you're crazy.

ok yeah yr nuts homie sorry

why is everyone hating on the Zeppo?

Xander, always the lame duck, gets to do his own little quiet, stupid thing to save the day and nobody knows but that's cool. But most importantly, it pokes fun at everything about the series, and okay I haven't seen it in a while but when I first watched it, I had never really seen that kind of extended self-parody on a TV show before.

yeah the scene where xander intrudes on a VERY DRAMATIC buffy/angel argument and then slinks off is one of my favorite moments in the whole series

i never knew all this stuff about nicky brendon's drinking problem :(

zeppo is such a great episode

and the faith stuff is some of the best this series ever did - fuckin 'bad girls' yall

word

3>2>1>5>4>>>>>>>>>>>6>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>7

Actually I probably should have given 4 a few more >'s, since the middle of that season was the first time I quit watching the show.

Hey this is apparently on Logo now! I am watching Graduation Day, it is still tremendous.

Logo sure is a channel that will show commercials for vibrators and RuPaul's Drag Race, though.

it's on every week day on logo but they had a mini-marathon of shows this weekend. then they show wet hot american summer and bound a dozen times. i don't think sarah michelle gellar gets enough credit, rewatching all of the seasons, she's just brilliant. the early material with her being so conflicted with her love of angel, the loneliness of saving the world always, being alienated from everyone is so much more affecting when it seems more personal than in later seasons when things became so mega-apocalyptic. seeing wesley as uber nerd again after watching him go all 007 later on in Angel is jarring. i only recently learned that he did try out for casino royale.

DNW

Also, why does the screenwriter have a glamour shot?

It's LA. We all have glamour shots.

gif!

love the blurry, pixellated Scooby Gang gif that must have been from the LA Times web archive circa 1999

Not clear to me whether Whedon owns the rights and is OKing this, or if he doesn't and isn't.

haha I don't remember The Cryptkeeper from BTVS OH THAT'S GILES

I don't think he has the rights, iirc. xp

Ew at all the Nolan references. Obviously means she doesn't get it at all. There really is no more room for any Buffy story unless they do post-Sunnydale with setting up the new Watchers council or whatever but that would be slow as hell and not work at all for a film. If they do Buffy during Buffy era then how the fuck could it live up to the tv show? And I don't think you can do a comic book history rewrite here, especially considering Angel revolves around it and all the shit people have bought into. So basically... Movie rewrite? Pre Sunnydale? With no romance, with no resolution (getting kicked out of school and having your family break up?)... Doesn't seem very Hollywood.

Basically they should have got Jane Espenson to write Buffy and co go to Ibiza (Angel already did Vegas) or not touch it at all.

May send this woman anthrax if it turns out the way it obviously will.

Kuzui has the rights to the name apparently. >:(
There's a bit more on AIC
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47540

Whedon responds

"Kristin, I'm glad you asked for my thoughts on the announcement of Buffy the cinema film. This is a sad, sad reflection on our times, when people must feed off the carcasses of beloved stories from their youths-just because they can't think of an original idea of their own, like I did with my Avengers idea that I made up myself.

Obviously I have strong, mixed emotions about something like this. My first reaction upon hearing who was writing it was, 'Whit Stillman AND Wes Anderson? This is gonna be the most sardonically adorable movie EVER.' Apparently I was misinformed. Then I thought, 'I'll make a mint! This is worth more than all my Toy Story residuals combined!' Apparently I am seldom informed of anything. And possibly a little slow. But seriously, are vampires even popular any more?

I always hoped that Buffy would live on even after my death. But, you know, AFTER. I don't love the idea of my creation in other hands, but I'm also well aware that many more hands than mine went into making that show what it was. And there is no legal grounds for doing anything other than sighing audibly. I can't wish people who are passionate about my little myth ill. I can, however, take this time to announce that I'm making a Batman movie. Because there's a franchise that truly needs updating. So look for The Dark Knight Rises Way Earlier Than That Other One And Also More Cheaply And In Toronto, rebooting into a theater near you.

Leave me to my pain! Sincerely, Joss Whedon."

http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEghaVSeqSXtki

there's more talent in that short letter than there will be in the entire new series

Otm

I'm progressing thru the 4th season when I noticed this:
http://i.imgur.com/TaWfi.png

looks an awful lot like this:
http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/Alexis-Krauss415.jpg

^That's the 3rd episode... as for the actual band in the Buffy episode, is that an actual band?

an actual band is it actual?

The girl in the first screengrab is Canadian singer Bif Naked. Don't know if that's her actual band at the time, but probably.

http://www.partyaftermath.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2/BifNaked2.jpg

Whedon always used actual bands in Buffy eps

like A Dingo Ate My Baby

rats