DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

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Disappointing: No results found for "miliband slams balls".

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 10:14 (fifteen years ago)

Check again tomorrow!

winston burchill (suzy), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 10:15 (fifteen years ago)

Hague should hire Sean Penn straight back if he's the one who wrote this statement.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)

No mention of Guido's FOI request in the statement? I presume that now becomes null and void?

Duncan Donuts (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)

Having said that I am quite enjoying the slagging of off the aforementioned Guido by his up till now loyal fans - "you've gone too far this time" etc.

Duncan Donuts (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)

my impression is that Guido would not be a pleasant companion in real life

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)

I was sure I called Hague's CONTROVERSIAL MODERATOR EDIT on this thread months ago but apparently not. It's allegedly been an open secret in Tory circles and probably in other parties for years.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 September 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

If you were trying to cover up your homosexual affair, while travelling around the country and checking into hotels with your gay partner, wouldn't it be a bit stupid to book into the same hotel room? If you were trying to avoid arousing suspicion you'd book two separate single rooms.

Jerome Personnel Cheeses (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 2 September 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

indeed
the only interesting part of this is, who within the tories is trying to do this? who is feeding that anal wart guido fawkes?

i am legernd (history mayne), Thursday, 2 September 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/9/2/1283456235291/Andy-Coulson-006.jpg

Duncan Donuts (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

god, coulson, huh. WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?

i am legernd (history mayne), Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:22 (fifteen years ago)

Even if Hague was gay, it's not a resigning issue, is it? And the completely plausible denial that these two men were involved in a relationship throws out any suspicion there was any impropriety in Myers' position as a SpAd. Not to mention that's he's resigned, anyway. Plus it plants a little doubt in everyone's mind the next time a scandal comes up. There's something a little fishy about this, like someone's been trying to keep Coulson off the front pages.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 2 September 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)

And, as if by magic...

According to Conservative officials, Andy Coulson, the party's director of communications, played a key role in the decision to release the statement on a day when attention was focused on the publication of Tony Blair's autobiography.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/senior-tories-pile-pressure-on-hague-over-foolishness-2069273.html

James Mitchell, Thursday, 2 September 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

Even if Hague was gay, it's not a resigning issue, is it?

interesting qn, kind of a test case for the new tory party. twenty years ago i think it would have been? not 'for being gay' in itself of course. there are all sorts of sanctimonious wankers saying it's 'an improper use of funds' to hire this guy etc, which is how they'd knife him.

i am legernd (history mayne), Thursday, 2 September 2010 23:09 (fifteen years ago)

In totally unrelated news NOTW have complained to the NYTimes like the big crybabies they are.
http://documents.nytimes.com/response-from-news-of-the-world

Duncan Donuts (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 2 September 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

I would ask you to consider, for example, what your reaction would be were Jayson Blair to make allegations now to a rival newspaper group about editorial practices and the culture at the New York Times, given that he left the paper approximately five years ago and a new editorial and executive team has been installed

Take that NYT.

Duncan Donuts (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 2 September 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

that's been edited for clarity? xp

caek, Thursday, 2 September 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)

(His) termination was later challenged at an employment tribunal in an acrimonious case which we vigorously defended, but which Mr. Driscoll won.
Not really making their case, here.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 2 September 2010 23:19 (fifteen years ago)

If you were trying to cover up your homosexual affair, while travelling around the country and checking into hotels with your gay partner, wouldn't it be a bit stupid to book into the same hotel room? If you were trying to avoid arousing suspicion you'd book two separate single rooms.

Surely Hague would be aware of past politicians/celebs that booked double (or twin) rooms and got the same crap from journos though?

Guardian still going after Coulson this morning, but is anyone else?

Duncan Donuts (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 3 September 2010 07:10 (fifteen years ago)

can i just say this is one of my favorite thread titles ever

ITS YA BOY (zorn_bond.mp3), Friday, 3 September 2010 07:10 (fifteen years ago)

ty brah

kind of makes up for its misplaced optimism

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 08:13 (fifteen years ago)

Dem gwan Con Dis Nation, an' t'ing

maintenant avec plus de fromage (suzy), Friday, 3 September 2010 08:14 (fifteen years ago)

It's still only been five months! xp

Duncan Donuts (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 3 September 2010 08:49 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/03/article-1308561-0B03791F000005DC-218_468x608_popup.jpg

Duncan Donuts (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 3 September 2010 08:53 (fifteen years ago)

Convenient that

It dreamed to Tom D. of the Caucasus (Tom D.), Friday, 3 September 2010 08:53 (fifteen years ago)

Hmm, Nick Clegg's name not boldened!

Mark G, Friday, 3 September 2010 08:56 (fifteen years ago)

At least it's not lower case. Suspect the word Liberal to be in inverted commas though.

It dreamed to Tom D. of the Caucasus (Tom D.), Friday, 3 September 2010 08:58 (fifteen years ago)

xp - yeah I thought that - haven't these people got, like, little document holders from Smythsons or something?

Duncan Donuts (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 3 September 2010 08:58 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01707/ChristopherMyers_1707569c.jpg

Dude certainly has brooding filmstar good looks: Myers isn't bad either

It dreamed to Tom D. of the Caucasus (Tom D.), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

BBC finally giving some space to the NYT allegations.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11175076

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:17 (fifteen years ago)

it was a big item on the today programme too

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:17 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, that article is a distillation of that mostly.

I see the Telegraph is still banging on about Hague. I thought they liked him? I'm confused by the New Politics.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)

I'm confused by William Hague's sleeping arrangements

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:33 (fifteen years ago)

Don't think any part of the Hague story is a resigning issue, even if his statement was a lie. Although if he did turn out to be gay or bi it would be deeply amusing given the extent to which he campaigned against abolishing Section 28 while leading the Tories.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 September 2010 13:04 (fifteen years ago)

The craziest thing to me about the phone hacking story is the alleged complicity between Scotland Yard and News of the World reporters??

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 September 2010 13:09 (fifteen years ago)

This isn't crazy: police inform members of the press about all sorts of things on the sly - I just get fed up when it's over a subject other than 'police corruption'.

maintenant avec plus de fromage (suzy), Friday, 3 September 2010 13:11 (fifteen years ago)

the second craziest is that cameron hired this guy. i suppose it's kind of po-faced to use phrases like 'serious lapse of judgment' but... that was a very serious lapse of judgment! any idiot could see this blowing up eventually.

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 13:11 (fifteen years ago)

I was sure I called Hague's CONTROVERSIAL MODERATOR EDIT on this thread months ago but apparently not. It's allegedly been an open secret in Tory circles and probably in other parties for years.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 2 September 2010 20:52 (Yesterday)

wouldn't this have been more widely circulated given that he was leader of the opposition for several years?

nakhchivan, Friday, 3 September 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)

Whenever I see William Hague talk I think of the priest on Father Ted who has "the most boring voice in the world".

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 September 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

Father Ted: Of the lot of us, who's got the most boring voice?
Fitzgerald: (extremely dull voice) That'd be me, Ted...
Father Ted: Right, now, listen to me--
Fitzgerald: I have an awful dreary monotonous voice, God help me...

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 September 2010 13:15 (fifteen years ago)

if they knew/suspected all along then why wasn't it being insinuated by the coulsons of whichever tory factions were trying to unsettle hague at the time?

nakhchivan, Friday, 3 September 2010 13:15 (fifteen years ago)

they had enough to do so at the time anyway?

Mark G, Friday, 3 September 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

tbh, I don't buy the "he's gay" thing at all.

Don't ask me why, I dunno.

Mark G, Friday, 3 September 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

hague lasted for 4 yrs iirc? and he was obviously terrible

nakhchivan, Friday, 3 September 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

I assume Cameron hired Coulson because the value of his Murdoch links outweighed the potential damage of this story blowing up, which it predictably has.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 September 2010 13:28 (fifteen years ago)

Murdoch to Coulson: "You resign, point of principle, it wasn't you but you bear responsibilty, right? I'll put in a word with CONTROV MOD ED and he'll see you right"

Mark G, Friday, 3 September 2010 13:32 (fifteen years ago)

Just ran into a posse of gay friends on the main drag near my flat - while we were sitting there chatting, Rupert Everett emerged from his flat in various outfits over a 30-minute period, trying to be noticed - and they call BS on Hague and the not-boyfriend.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eDCpmQFGYxQ/SDFyjIAx3uI/AAAAAAAAAC4/kG3vZMdzesE/s200/200px-ErnieBertStorm.jpg

maintenant avec plus de fromage (suzy), Friday, 3 September 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)

BS on they nobbed or BS on they didn't?

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 18:09 (fifteen years ago)

They liked my joke about 'honey, what would you like from Firetrap?' and reckoned WH is Mildred and his friend is George, knaaamsayin'

maintenant avec plus de fromage (suzy), Friday, 3 September 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11094468

Our responsible media will presumably report that immigration is down, rather than presenting the data in a way that will exacerbate racial tensions.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 6 September 2010 00:18 (fifteen years ago)


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