Strange Tales of Hassidic Jews

Thermo,
Please read my comments. I think they apply to you as well!

Thomas, where exactly did I say anything untrue, you fucking tosser?

Also, the bedsheet stuff was addressed way upthread.

Isn't it a "briss"?

nope, it's a brisk.

They want to make sure actual jews are being jewish up to their standards. They don't convert christians.

-- Jonothong Williamsmang (SUCCUM...), October 8th, 2005.

You said that they were trying to convert Jews, as implied from the last clause in your sentence. If you knew anything about Judaism you wouldn't have written that.

thomas, learn to read

Ok, right you're BORN a jew. But they try to "convert" them to following orthodox practices, etc.

Quit being such a fucking dick. Why do you care random person who has never posted here before?

You cannot convert to Orthodoxy, that was my point about your ignorance. The profanity just reemphasizes my point. Are you the policeman for this site?

From their point of view! I know plenty of jews who consider themselves atheists.

to answer your other question, yes, jonothong is the policeman of this site and i wish you wouldn't make fun of his name. he is sensitive. and vietnamese.

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Jono,
My points were directed at other entries that preceded yours. Perhaps I overstated your ignorance, but I do find a lot of stupidity on this site, that's all. Educated jokes are cool, or, do you have to be stupid to be funny?

I like both kind of jokes.

Some of the people posting today are trolling, Thomas as the sheet thing was addressed earlier in the thread. I think.

Thomas you need to chill. The post is actually pretty clear; try reading it again.

When I was in college I used to get asked if I was Jewish by Orthodox Jews that came onto campus. My Jewish friends told me that if they said yes, they got hassled. The notion is that the people doing this concerned about the way that people who profess their faith practice it, not people of different faiths.

Laura and I think they additionally felt that you were "jewish" if your mother was regardless if you self identified as such!

OK I'll chill. Perhaps the tone on this site seemed a bit offensive since I thought it was giving some misinformation.

BTW the Kinsey Institute said that Orthodox Jews have more sex over a life time then most other people. Interetsting?

they marry young and have a lot of babies.

Wait up, whats the thing with penny farthings about then tom?

The guy got a good deal at the Brittish antique shop

What I want to know is, what is UP with the public rudeness? I was on a v crowded train the other day and an older grey-bearded Hassid forced his way onto the train, TOTALLY smushing a young guy in front of me (who we'll call Max for ease of discussion). Other people on the platform who didn't bother trying to get on presumably said to themselves, "you know, I'll just wait for the next one, it's not worth shoving on there and being crammed into someone who'll be pissed at me" BUT NO this man keeps a completely blank look on his face, stares over all our heads, and forces himself up against Max like he's not even there, in the process dislodging Max's hold on the only pole he could possibly reach, and the whole time acting as if all the other passengers are furniture. The Hassid doesn't a) say excuse me or I'm sorry but it's an emergency, he maintains total silence and b) doesn't even flinch when Max says "Look, I'm sorry but there's no room, HEY I can't breathe!" Just keeps staring blankly and pushing. Deeply weird.

mustve had a brisk instead of a proper briss. it would bug anyone out.

lots of people are rude in public laurel, i don't get what conclusions you think we should draw from one hasidic rude guy

love the brisk/briss thing. isn't brisk a lithuanien stream of Orthodoxy, mithnagdik, opponents of hassidim! I think that it is how they refer to the Soloveitchik family! A sbriskers

a briss in brisk...

Yeah, slocki, sorry I wasn't clearer -- this isn't the first time I've witnessed a weird kind of oblivious rudeness from Hasidic men. For whatever reason I don't get the same vibe from women, but the men always seem determined not to notice or acknowledge anyone and the train thing was only the most recent and prominent example.

And I have some half-remembered thing in a far corner of my brain suggesting that it's a gender thing, that if Hasidic men see a woman improperly attired or otherwise err, what's the equivalent of treyf for social conduct? not-frum? anyway, that they'll ignore a woman because to appear to notice or otherwise be drawn into something not-frum would be contrary to the law. I know women don't have the same responsibilities in worship/observance that men do, don't know if that has anything to do with public social behavior.

I'm not asking you or anyone to draw any conclusions, per se, just wondering if there's a known basis for the weirdness.

just came across this site. i have a friend who had an israeli hasidic boyfriend in israel! how's that for a lead...

sorry i left out the main point. It was a guy friend of mine whose boyfriend was a chassidc Israeli.
TALK ABOUT GAY SHLUFFEN!

argh

I live in the same neigbourhood as s1ocki, although a little further to the northwest, where the population is predominantly comprised of Hasidic/Satmar/Lubavichs. My friend Charlotte works at the Hasidic bakery Cheskies, there's like some terribly joke there - a 'harlot serving hasidim. yuk yuk.

One of my regular customer had a son and daughter-in-law in Montreal, I should have taken the address to see if it was near you guys.

I know that there's a large population in the Cote St. Luc neighbourhood, too. I live in Outremont.

Outremont sounds really familiar.

hasidic noize dudes?!?

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/21/2176/1024/hasidic.jpg

Oh my goodness, Sukkot is coming up! Everyone's getting the hut ready!

A week from today, I think.

Listen you imbeciles! Im a Hasid. You are so shockingly ignorant it hurts my brain. Grow up. You're scaring me! If you dont understand something try to learn. Im mmore than happy to answer any questions you might legitametly have!

You could maybe try reading the thread more closely, and understand that a) some people are taking the piss out of those of you reacting so strongly, b) some of us here genuinely know bugger all about the jewish culture, and may actually be honest and genuine in their questions. I mean ffs.

Can someone deindex this thread before it gets ugly?

please do not deindex it.

Heh.

seriously!

Oh I know!

Anyway. To underline my previous point - until I moved to melbourne, I cant say I had ever met or seen an orthodox Jewish person such as a Hasid... I had no idea of any of the sub-faiths until only a few years ago. Want to call me ignorant? Please don't. I merely grew up in a city that honest to goodness has probbaly a .001% Jewish population. It is something I never knew much about til I moved to a very Hasidic neighbourhood in another city. And I find it really interesting, actually.

I'm not religious though, so of course I dont agree with any of it in that sense. But eh.

Anyone seen the new Heeb with Sarah Silverman posing with a holey sheet?

I heart Sarah Silverman so much.

This thread wins the award for "Most Unexpected Google-bait on ILE, 2005".

OMG, best idea for sex fantasy ever!!!

http://www.heebmagazine.com/images/magazine/issue9.jpg

Ha, I just noticed Thomas being Captain-Save-A-Cyber-Jew

I used to live in that part of Montreal (edge of Outremont/Mile End).

re Cheskies (omg black-and-white cookies and poppyseed croissants1)
My friend Kyla used to work there (maybe Charlotte replaced her - who knows?). Not Jewish. Although there were varying degrees of weirdness from the clientele, she had only the warmest things to say about Mr Cheskie. Among the Hasids I've been exposed to, I find it very interest the extreme variance of attitudes toward gentiles and non-frum Jews. Normal people are weird, rude, kind, etc., but among the ultraorthodox community there's (what appears to me as) exaggerated versions of these behaviours. Ultraambivalent is much more striking than just-plain-ambivalent, ditto for generosity and rudeness and awkwardness. So I notice(d) it a lot.

My hassidic landlord hasn't turned on the heat yet. Fucker.

Recently, one of our neighbors said that he didn't want to rent to 2 black dudes even though they passed a credit check, etc.