Is ADHD a real disorder?

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It's hard to have a conversation about the value of a drug with people who have never experienced the disease it treats.

As many threads about mental disorders often devolve into, none of these are magic pills. You don't take them and instantly become a member of the polyphonic spree. The merely free you from being a prisoner to your moods and give you the mental clarity to actually live life: hold a job, maintain a relationship, not drug and drink in an attempt to self-medicate, not constantly plan suicide, not risk jail b/c of your insane antics.

This stable feeling that most people take for granted opens up so much more of life. It's simply called being healthy.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:09 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread has inspired me to pick up the phone and call a doctor. I've been needing to for... shit... YEARS. I need ADD meds, and for a while anyway I need sleep meds. I've been using Lunesta at night, but it doesn't work anymore for some reason. I wake up after 4 hours, consistently, and sometimes I can go back to sleep, and sometimes I can't. Not sleeping really fucks with your life.

Anyway. xpost to Deric: "losing the plot" is a perfect way to put it.

kenan, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Yay! I got an appointment tomorrow! That was easy.

kenan, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link

The magic R helped with my sleep, too, because when it wears off I'm often quite tired (possibly due ot expending more energy over the course of the day).

I should mention another side effect... I lost 15-20lb when I started it. Good for some people, I guess, but I was already only 170lb, and 6'3".

Will M., Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Trazadone is also good for sleep and pretty mild overall.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

totally anecdotal so yes i'm taking it with a grain of salt as should you but one of the most fucked up times i've ever seen someone on a prescription drug was when a former boss was on provigil. he also had/has a bit of a drinking/drug problem so obviously it wasn't due to the provigil solely, but man, he was totally nuts when he was on it.

hstencil, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I think drinking and drugs combined with a stimulant would be a serious, possibly heart-attack inducing, problem

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Trazodone is also used to reduce the symptoms of agoraphobia, drug induced insomnia, essential tremor, repetitive screaming, and some pain syndromes.

heh. I'm really glad I do not suffer from repetitive screaming.

kenan, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

New thread: Is repetitive screaming a real disorder?

kenan, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

haha, I've never seen that! That's what Homer needed when kept having the hypnosis-induced nightmare.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I think drinking and drugs combined with a stimulant would be a serious, possibly heart-attack inducing, problem

-- Ms Misery, Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

yep, he's kind of a mess even without the provigil.

hstencil, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

New thread: Is repetitive screaming a real disorder?

It's going to be in about five more posts.

Laurel, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdbYsoEasio

kenan, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

"drug-induced insomnia" = "just stopped doing so much coke?"

nabisco, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

so yeah, nevermind me, ask a bunch of non-expert non-professionals!

So you're basically assuming that EVERYONE on this board is a non-expert/non-professional. Next you'll tell me all people surfing the net are sexually deprived socially inept nerds or something. Way to go, Hstencil. Secondly you don't need to be a professional to have a well-based opinion on this matter (or any other matter).

So, HStencil, whenever you need an opinion, do you call the 0900-EXPERT-R-US line disregarding what anyone else says?

stevienixed, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I think he was only responding to the idea that you shouldn't ask doctors at all.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

What a great thread. I love ILX.

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

It seems par for the course for ILx

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I know, Sam, I was overreacting a bit. Hurting was asking some experiences and that's what he gets as a snappy reply (from Hstencil). I really think people should have a bit more tact sometimes. Here and everywhere else.

stevienixed, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

hey look! the human fucking race!

retards!

El Tomboto, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I think he was only responding to the idea that you shouldn't ask doctors at all.

OK, now I think that the lithium is making *you* hallucinate, because that was never said on this thread. I don't know how "ask other people with first hand experience because doctors don't know everything" got twisted into that, but hey, you've been using me as your straw man for nigh on a decade, so why stop now?

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Did I mention your name Kate?

Pretend you don't know who I am. I'm sure you'd agree life would be more pleasant for both of us if we were strangers.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

WOW SO UHH... ADD. I HAVE IT IT'S REALLY FUN KIND OF LIKE AN XBOX

Will M., Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link

see you guys later, i'm gonna go tab some acid.

hstencil, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link

*regrets not letting this thread die* :-(

stevienixed, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I want to know if Will is giving the XBox a thumbs up or thumbs down.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

depends on what he just injected. (lame joke, i know)

stevienixed, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Are you calling Will an IV drug user?? Now that's low. ;)

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I was being ADD, all making useless associations based on the things in my head hey guys look a dog!

Will M., Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link

people are touchy about stuff sometimes.

darraghmac, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Q: how many kids with ADD does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: WANNA RIDE BIKES??

Laurel, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

xxpost

My ADD keeps me constantly clicking to the "now playing on Sirius" tab, choosing a new song, refreshing ILx, turning back to my CSS and adding something. . .repeat every 60 seconds.

argh. . . .

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link

lol @ laurel

sanskrit, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

My ADD keeps me from living life above the poverty line. It's lots of fun.

Deric W. Haircare, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I just would ike to point out that when I met Kate St. Clair in person, in real life, in a london pub, she came off exactly the fucking insane homeless bonkers bag lady archetype I thought she would. I vote hard to the left but I don't suffer a fool for very long. I suspect the rest of the FAP crowd felt sorry for me while I endured your lecture on the Masonic conference rooms of London, but I've learned my lesson not to speak for others. To cover my own sentiments, how about a big FUCK YOU YOU'RE PRETTY STUPID. Congrats on getting to open for an overrated pack of 40something talentless bithces that one time, that is something the rest of us will never get to do.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

also I hate you and think you're an imbecile.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Oy this thread

Laurel, Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't get the injected joke, can someone spell it out for me?

Will M., Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Nath was talking about drug taking. Maybe. So that XBox, yay? nay?

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I am going to buy one before Xmas so they better be pretty good!

Will M., Thursday, 30 August 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

people are real touchy about stuff sometimes

darraghmac, Thursday, 30 August 2007 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Those Wii folx are pretty belligerent.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

CAN WE CALL IT BY ITS TRUE NAME PLEASE, THE CHRISTBOX 360

Will M., Thursday, 30 August 2007 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Who'd have thought an ILX discussion of mental-health pharmaceuticals would wind up like this?

nabisco, Thursday, 30 August 2007 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link

or just an ILX thread about (pseudo)* mental health

*optional

darraghmac, Thursday, 30 August 2007 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost

You mean turning to video game systems?

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link

my doctor prescribed the xbox for my relationship difficulties.

darraghmac, Thursday, 30 August 2007 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link

My therapist actually told me to use Guitar Hero to help with my anxiety.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I just would ike to point out that when I met Kate St. Clair in person, in real life, in a london pub, she came off exactly the fucking insane homeless bonkers bag lady archetype I thought she would. I vote hard to the left but I don't suffer a fool for very long. I suspect the rest of the FAP crowd felt sorry for me while I endured your lecture on the Masonic conference rooms of London, but I've learned my lesson not to speak for others. To cover my own sentiments, how about a big FUCK YOU YOU'RE PRETTY STUPID. Congrats on getting to open for an overrated pack of 40something talentless bithces that one time, that is something the rest of us will never get to do.

I will never ever understand Americans. I really don't. I don't get the cues so don't know when they are joking or not.

i don't get the injected joke, can someone spell it out for me?

You compared yourself (or rather your ADD) with an Xbox. So I made the inject (drugs/games) comment. It was a really crappy joke... I guess, I'm too belgian stupid to make jokes.

My therapist actually told me to use Guitar Hero to help with my anxiety.

Roffle. Oh god, I can't stop laughing. How come my husband wants to smash his "perfectly tuned plastic guitar" all the time.

stevienixed, Thursday, 30 August 2007 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Is he not that good at it? It was a fun activity for both of us until G realized I was loads better at it. Now he never wants to play. :(

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link


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