Match of the Day vs The Premiership

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I saw this and Dave they did talk abt Waddle's shot in extra time. All key moments and chances were picked apart - as well as every penalty.

Steve - the point to the programme seemed to be that this was when football came out from its 'hooliganism' image and went to something that everybody liked and many others got into - and this particurlar match was the link.

My brother watched this with me - we were trying to think of players who were booked in a semi of a major tournament and could not take place in the final - what were their contributions to the match? We came up with 3 players and all of them scored apart from gascoigne.

Roy keane was one of them but I can't remember the others.

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Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Ballack

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't see anyone making a documentaries about Brz '02 or, for that matter Por '04.

Oh, I think a reconstruction of that night in Crystal Palace might be worthwhile - the build-up, the excitement of opening the pizza boxes, the text messages from Mr. Hopkins, etc.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 5 October 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

yes ballack was another one.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

the point to the programme seemed to be that this was when football came out from its 'hooliganism' image and went to something that everybody liked and many others got into - and this particurlar match was the link.

i had not thought of that, good point.

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Laurent Blanc didn't score in the 1998 semi.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Aha!

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

hansen was brusque to the point of rude. he said chiles didn't know what he was talking about (about defending, unsurprisingly). he also said he prefered doing the saturday show because at least the questions were relevant. he was playing up a bit.

I think Hansen gets this way whenever he leaves the relative comfort of the Main Pundit On The Big Match role.
I remember him appearing as a guest on the Frank Skinner show: he was asked one question and instantly went into a tirade of (slightly paraphrased) "Go on then ya cunt make us all laugh! That's your thing int it ya bam! I say something then you take the piss! Go on then ya brummy wanker! FUCKING MAKE US LAUGH!"
Skinner looked really uncomfortable (almost as uncomfortable as the infamous "You called me a child molester" show with M4tthew K3lly) so I suppose that was a good thing.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, that does sound a good thing.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i think 'slightly paraphrased' is an understatement there - i remember that appearance and it stemmed from Skinner poking fun at Hansen for making his wife a cup of hot Ribena before bedtime or something. Hansen had to play down accusations of being some sort of tweeist with gusto as a result. entertaining.

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Skinner also took the piss out of Hansen on Fantasy Football league for liking Billy Joel and i'm not sure he's ever forgiven them. Chiles also supports West Brom. draw your own conclusion.

http://www.baggies.com/celebrities/

Judas Priest be warned.

Pete W (peterw), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Onimo and Ronan should collaborate on Hansen's legendary interview with Roy Keane.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I was trying to get more at the message behind what Hansen was saying :-)

Here's the transcript (doncha love t'internet)

Alan Let's hear it!

Frank This is you talking about your home life, you and your wife Janet, who I've met and is very nice 'When we've had a takeaway'

Alan Oh no, I don't want to hear this!

Frank No its nice…'When we've had a takeaway we usually take a big glass of Ribena up to bed. Because more often then not, we'll wake up at some stage gasping for a drink. If we've had one too many glasses of wine, we always forget, and then you can be sure Janet will be saying to me in the night 'Please get me a drink of water'

Alan It's great to be a bore isn't it, but you're pretty good at it yourself.

Frank That's not boring, I think that's nice, that you've got a nice domestic home life.

Alan So why you going to laugh in a minute? Why are you going to crack a funny and then laugh?

Frank I want to know...don't get touchy, relax trust me. Why does she ask for a glass of water when there's Ribena in the house? If you're going to get up and get water, is it any extra bother for you to put a little bit of Ribena in there.

Alan Honestly, wrongly quoted. They've done it again.

Frank They've stitched you up with the old water remark.

Alan Stitched me up with the Ribena. Can you believe that?

Frank So you don't have the Ribena in? Oh Alan you do.

Alan No honestly, we've stopped it.

Frank Ah but you used to? It's alright, It doesn't make you a bad person. I think it's all right.

Alan You see you're smiling. First you said it was nice, then you're smiling, laughing and there is still a funny to come yet, I can feel a funny coming on.

Frank I wish you were right.

Alan So do the audience!

Frank Meaning?

Alan Come on I want to hear it! I want to hear the funny! The funny isn't going to come?

Frank No, I just want to hear about you're home life!

Alan Come on, lets get on with it. I want to hear the funny, the audience want to hear the funny! The audience are gasped in anticipation. Not for the Ribena, but for the funny.

Frank Who's side are you on? You've changed. I just wanted to know about the Ribena. Because when you said you take a big glass up, does that mean you share it? Or do you have 2 beakers. If it's 1 glass what side of the bed does it go on? Do you have a small shelf centrally above you?

Alan Are we getting there?

Frank Well, the audience are laughing!

Alan So what do you drink during the night?

Frank I don't, I'm asleep.

Alan That's not what I've heard!

Frank I haven't upset you have I?

Alan No. I'm still here aren't I?

Frank Accept this as a token. I don't like to think you're off the Ribena for any special reason

FRANK GIVES ALAN A BOTTLE OF RIBENA

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Alan: DON'T TRY IT!

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Alan So what do you drink during the night?

Frank I don't, I'm asleep.

Alan That's not what I've heard!

Genius.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

'Alan Come on, lets get on with it. I want to hear the funny, the audience want to hear the funny! The audience are gasped in anticipation. Not for the Ribena, but for the funny.'

There was the funny, just there!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
Hansen was being extremely nice last night, nicer even than on Saturday night. I think someone had told him he had to be nice to Chiles. He almost slipped when Chiles came out with some refereeing statistic, but he managed to restrain himself.

I am pleased, really, because I have trouble sleeping if Hansen is nasty.

I say, I do like 'The Strachan View'. Will he be able to carry on if Scotland appoint him this week, as is not expected?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 October 2004 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The Strachan View now has JANGLY GUITARS behind it!

Also, Chiles kicked off a wee tad nervously, or self-referentially, by saying 'Alan Hansen's here to put us straight on a few things'.

When Rooney's goal went in - on the highlights, I mean (I didnae know the result) - I danced around the room like 'Minor Character' was playing.

the bellefox, Monday, 25 October 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

what's happened to Mark Bright?

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 25 October 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that the 'funny' bloke? If so, he was moved to Saturday so that we could delight in the sight of the resident West Brom and Crystal Palace fans congratulating each other on how nice their mates are. I prefer not to know who a presenter supports, I think.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 07:07 (twenty-one years ago)

No, he's not (that) Bright.

MOTD was spectacular on Saturday in the sense that it featured Everton as the lead match. It's been a while. It may be a while again.

I enjoy the flurry of chuckling and impenetrable Scots asides that accompany our return to the studio after an amusing filmed item on MOTD2. And Chiles has improved 100% (or 110% if Bob Paisley had anything to do with it).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 07:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd rather have Stubbs or yer man Maniche (sp) presenting MOTD2. for consistency.

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Its pretty sad how fans of other teams are all getting behind Man United isn't it?

Didn't Alan Hansen say at one point 'what kind of question is this?' when the referees were being discussed after Kevin Keegan's rant and Chiles hadn't even finished speaking! Though I thought it was more jokey than when I saw MOTD2 a few weeks ago.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

What annoys me about MOTD is that the lead matches are usually the games which have been televised by Sky already that day, and the people really interested in them will have already watched them live, so why not give more coverage to the other games?

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

the 'not everyone has Sky Sports in their home or wants to go to a packed out pub' protocol should be sustained for now.

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I'm quite happy for the Beeb to make their assessment independent of whether Sky screened the games or not. (As it happens, though I was very interested indeed, I had other commitments from noon till mid-afternoon Saturday and didn't see Norwich-Everton live).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Try this, it sometimes works:

http://www.stone0898.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks - but the MOTD highlights did me just fine.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

It sometimes comes up trumps when you can't (or don't want to) get down the pub.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

the pub wouldn't actually let us in to watch the game on Sunday - too full

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't want Sky TV, there's too much razzamatazz, and what's more, I prefer highlights to complete games. This does not make me 'not really interested'. Hands up who stays up to watch Argentinian football followed by Dutch football followed by Brazillian football preceded by John Barnes's Football Night preceded by ITV Cockney Football Knees-Up preceded by Greavsie's Gaff? If not, you are a LIGHTWEIGHT. I can see one or two hands at the back.

Did anyone see the trailer for MOTD2, before Whose News Is It Anyway, when Starchan and Hansen were pretending to be tall/short in direct contravention of Chiles's introduction of them? I think that really set the tone for the whole evening.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i phoned the BBC to complain as i thought it was highly inappropriate for both pundits to be Scottish that evening.

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh, no, I didn't see that, PJM.

I agree that highlights are best, except when Spurs are playing. When, come to think of it, it is probably best to see nothing, hear nothing and learn nothing.

the bluefox, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Can someone answer a question for me?

What is the time?

My computer clock sys 6:51, my watch says 6:45. It is rather important that I get it, roughly, right. Perhaps my watch is dying on me. Yes, I expect so.

the timefox, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that your PC is more accurate than your watch. Replace the battery in the watch?

Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you are right.

I wonder if anyone will sell me a battery. I need a new strap as well.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Any jeweller should do that for you (sometimes its difficult to get the back of one's watch off oneself). They'll love to sell you a strap too.

Eespecially an Arab one.

Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Mooro, you demonstrate (here and elsewhere) a marvellously exciting and glamorous notion of what I get up to in shops. It cheers me up (and I need cheering up, just now).

the bellefox, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hands up who stays up to watch Argentinian football followed by Dutch football followed by Brazillian football preceded by John Barnes's Football Night preceded by ITV Cockney Football Knees-Up preceded by Greavsie's Gaff?"

When I was unemployed, I was that sad man

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I should have known I could rely on you, Porky.

Watch straps can be very expensive.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

that Greavsie's Gaff title song is beyond classic terror

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 08:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I still think it should be UKIP's campaign anthem.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Chiles 'Harold' last night invited us to write to the editor if we were sick of him doing introductory films to West Brom matches. This is very perceptive of him. If only more BBC presenters would invite people to ask for their air time to be reduced.

No Strachan - bad.

Moyes - diplomatic.

Le Saux or however you write it - what a pleasant young man.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 1 November 2004 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Moyes' role was mainly to scare the kiddies for Halloween.

Pete W (peterw), Monday, 1 November 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Everton managers have a tendency to be dour, guarded, uncharismatic - Catterick was the anti-Shankly in the 60s though just as successful. Bingham had a twinkle in his eye but we were frequently deeply negative under him, attempting to win the title in 74-75 entirely with draws; Lee tried to stifle the ebullience of the side Bingham assembled in his last, crazy days and by '79 had managed it - the 6-0s and 2-6s replaced with 1-0s and 0-0s until a deluge of transfer requests pulled us under. Colin Harvey and Walter Smith never smiled.

I do love David Moyes though.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 1 November 2004 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i believe it's spelt "le socks" PJ

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 1 November 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

pronounced 'lezzo'

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 1 November 2004 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

in his first spell at chelsea we called him bergerac. he's from the channel islands, you see. like bergerac.

on his return, he became soxy.

Pete W (peterw), Monday, 1 November 2004 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The commentator at the Arsenal match managed to point out that Demi Moore was in the crowd and then wondered what to say about her. 'err familiar face...'

Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Monday, 1 November 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Did he speculate as to her thoughts on TWO-GOAL RORY DELAP?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)


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