new novels and why they suck and whatever

what is new

new is today's tomorrows

ive only read like 10 pages but linda le's the three fates seems p interesting

read David Mitchell's "Cloud Atlas" b/c of this thread and it was aawweessoommee

man reading is so pointless. reading 400 pages of some shitty book that i can use sparknotes to find out the basic point (like being a lawyer i guess), you're only gonna forget that shit a few days later. pointless invention, books

thanks for the David Mitchell rec guys. Really enjoying Cloud Atlas. I guess not all new novels suck or whatever

yayyyyy

yeah that book was great

how far along are you shakey?

third section - "Half Lives: the firt Luisa Rey mystery", sooo 90 pages or so?

ppl should stop writing, publishing novels in 2014

free advice! step right up and get your free advice!

lol stfu silby

xp: uh oh im having a fantasy u started a thread about an east european or mb german dude like a year ago whose books i really wanted to read but i forget who it was now. also did i ever ask u about hard rain falling? i really really love that book

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I went to the library today and picked this book up among other things because I remembered it from somewhere, I guess it was here

Who was the east european or mb german dude tho

I also picked up The Alp by Arno Camenisch, which isn't really a novel, but seems to be a 2014 thing that I, so far, really enjoy. It's also the first new Dalkey book that I've enjoyed reading in a while, I mean I usually get something out of new Dalkey things but they're, often-times, painful to get through.

probably laszlo krasznahorkai, war n war is the only book of his I can actually get through. xp

cant believe we had a thousand post thread on nu novels and now ppl only read young adult fan fic graphic novels rip literature

a lot of this thread was about sci fi though

silby otm. fiction is dull.

hey I didn't say fiction is dull

like obviously I'm adopting some sort of semi-disingenuous lol internet position by posting "people should stop writing novels" but just the continued existence of the market for new lit-fic novels is kind of legitimately weird to me

ahem, *new* fiction is dull

but honestly i'm bored* of all fiction for the last couple years. this must be the curse of studying english lit.

*i'm also pretty sure that the more non-fiction i read, and the less fiction, the more boring i get

always a risk that when you say something, mordy will agree with you

haha

anyway I'd settle on a moratorium on new novels written in English by white men

I realize I can adopt this as a personal rule but I read a wikipedia article about Kant once and I think it means I'm supposed to babble about it on the internet too.

When novels like 2666 are being written, there is still a reason to write and publish novels. QED.

silby have you read the sugar-frosted nutsack?

no but I have to confess this looks disturbingly like something I would enjoy

it's not that I haven't enjoyed any recent long fiction, I just think it's weird that it exists

like I walk into the bookstore and I look at the New in Fiction table and I'm like, who are these people? how did they get around to writing a novel? is anyone going to read this?

a lot of people (me included) have creative writing degrees/MAs/MFAs - we've got to do something with them

The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay is one of the best novels I've ever read. I'm a big fan of Jonathan Franzen as well.

I am surprised that old classics are published, such is the focus on the chronological new and now.

unapologetic Hilary Mantel stan here, will continue to read whatever she rolls out until my time or hers runs out

new novels r good

Mordy
Posted: July 2, 2014 at 1:24:03 AM
but honestly i'm bored* of all fiction for the last couple years. this must be the curse of studying english lit.

*i'm also pretty sure that the more non-fiction i read, and the less fiction, the more boring i get

just gettin old bro

u guys heard of tao lin i hear he is the future of novels

The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay is one of the best novels I've ever read.

same

Modern mainstream writers often don't know how to do endings.

anyway I'd settle on a moratorium on new novels written in English by white men

― Forks I'd Clove to Fu (silby), Wednesday, 2 July 2014 01:29 (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm half greek cypriot, gonna class that as off-white

subthread: are CW programmes damaging to the future of fiction?

silby have you read Americanah? if you have and do not like it i don't want to hear about it fyi.

I've mostly ignored stuff by English White Men.

Plenty of novels by women and a ton of translations (even if you could argue not as much gets translated as it should).

Not read anything properly new in an age. How is a Girl is a Half Formed Thing? Seems to be getting a lot of traction, though that always worries me that it'll be *dun-dun-dun* middlebrow. Gasp. The horror.

imago i didn't know you were one of us! explains some of the overlap in musical taste

just gettin old bro

two cliches i always heard about getting older - that you get more right-wing and read more non-fiction. i wonder if there's a correlation.

i do love mantel. there are "new" novels that i do pick up and love (in addition to mantel, i like atwood, lethem, chabon, mccarthy, jacobson, russell) but i just have so much less patience for reading fiction now. even w/ authors i love i can rarely finish the novel - i get about halfway through and then distracted.

emil.y, did u see sunless sea is now on steam? (kinda pseudo-fiction connection to this thread)

silby have you read /Americanah/? if you have and do not like it i don't want to hear about it fyi.

I haven't so you are safe from whatever opinions I would've had about it!