US INCOME TAX!

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From my delinquencies and fits of avoidance, I learned that if you have a refund coming to you, it is OK not to file (for a certain number of years?), but it is NOT OK if you owe money. I skipped filing for 2 years at one point and then on the 3rd year I filed, got refunds for each year from federal as well as state, received a very lovely chunk of change which I then used to purchase a car and some pretty baubles.

Jesse, Monday, 14 April 2008 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

xp I would hire a tax lawyer.

-- felicity, Monday, April 14, 2008 5:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

heh ok zing i guess but i thought you were giving out free advice today

i will do my own research, this person cannot afford a "lawyer"

bell_labs, Monday, 14 April 2008 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

No because people were rude and I actually do need to work for my paying clients.

felicity, Monday, 14 April 2008 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

KOOL-AID MAN knows what's up

banriquit, Monday, 14 April 2008 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

yeah ask that dude. He'll be cool.

felicity, Monday, 14 April 2008 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

yeah i know someone who had refunds due to him but for assorted laziness reasons didn't file for over five years. he finally did and got a big chunk of money back.

akm, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

listen i still haven't filed my '06 taxes and i'm wondering if i'm SOL with the DOJ and the IRS, or maybe if i can get an extension

omar little, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

vaguely hilarious in the context of your chosen logon

El Tomboto, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

I am very butthurt! From now on I will only dispense edgy, ironic, purportedly, humorous, awful, house, legal, advice, if any.

felicity, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

i owe the feds some scrill but fortunately not much, i was worried it might be more for some reason.

omar little, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

this thread is just making me butthurt at myself for not doing my undergrad in accounting or something

bell_labs, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

ehhh shit i kept meaning to make planz to have them done, but kept sleeping on it, and now i'll have to whip thru them online. my major expense will be not having anything to itemize against a pile of undeducted freelance income. you pay to be lazy.

gff, Monday, 14 April 2008 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

owning a house makes it financially inadvisable not to have an accountant

Dude the mortgage deduction requires 1) looking at the form your mortgage lender sent you and 2) transfering the amount in box 2 into the line something or other on your Schedule C. No accountant required. I did our federal and state in under an hour and had both mortgage and student loan interests to deduct. Piece o' cake. So just file dude.

quincie, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

I think what I'll do is just estimate what's on the forms I don't have, file with that, then file an amended return when they turn up, which ought not be too long.

libcrypt, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

you should just flee the country

akm, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

Don't pander to my wife OK???

libcrypt, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

he can't flee the country dude, he OWNS PROPERTY.

El Tomboto, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

You can always flee for 2 weeks or so.

libcrypt, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

don't talk about his wife that way xpost

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

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Mr. Que, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

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sunny successor, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

Resource for meme early adopters

gabbneb, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

I filed in January and have already spent my tax return. :)

homosexual II, Monday, 14 April 2008 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

argh argh argh fuck why didn't i read form 970 before fucking w/ "tuition expenses" and "education credits"

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 00:36 (eighteen years ago)

here's a q for any currently-enrolled independent full-time students out there

if you're getting a scholarship / fellowship / grant (not a loan), and the amount is less than the "qualified expense" on the 1098-T, there's no point in even fucking around w/ education credits or tuition expenses because it's essentially saying that 100% of that money went into the qualified expense so it doesn't even need to be reported as wages? (looking at worksheet 1-1 in form 970)

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

that was my impression when I was on the tuition reimbursement program at my last company, yes. none of my tuition reimbursement payments ever even showed up on my W2.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 00:59 (eighteen years ago)

the 1098-T is the one you get from your school telling you how much you paid them, right?

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:03 (eighteen years ago)

yeah it tells you how much they gave you in the form of "free money" non-teaching fellowships and how much your "qualified expense" was (ie tuition + processing fees)

i guess the fact that i never received w-2 for this money should have tipped me off but i get really paranoid w/ tax forms and just *assume* that you have to report everything. and then in the 1040 instructions there's a bit about "taxable fellowship funds not reported on a w-2", which i dutifully entered, and then freaked out because the maximum deduction for education is like $4000, so i owed like $500 tax, so i tried to claim education credit, which doesn't work if you're actually doing the education at the same time, but then i finally looked at 970 worksheet 1-1 and realized it's not actually taxable ... fuck, i'm stupid ...

anyway, taxes done A++ would file again

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:04 (eighteen years ago)

i don't even know why i bothered w/ 1040 this year because i don't have kids, mortgage, interest, dividends, itemized deductions (except the $250 teacher supplies wheeee!) or anything else that would make it worthwhile ...

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:05 (eighteen years ago)

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gr8080, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:20 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone gets that code too.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:22 (eighteen years ago)

You May Now File Your Form N-13 On-Line!!!
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gr8080, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

We ran the numbers, and it looks like your income was too high to get the tax rebate for 2008.

Ironically enough, I just learned that I owe $1000 for (my wife) not filing on time last year.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 02:06 (eighteen years ago)

CA income categories include:

Ottoman Turkish Empire Settlement Payments

libcrypt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 02:08 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha.

felicity, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 02:13 (eighteen years ago)

So the key question is whether it's worth filing an amended return. I found all the real tax documents so I didn't have to guess any numbers, but I skipped some deductions I could probably have gotten, like student loan interest-related deductions (not much, since I'm almost paid off).

libcrypt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 02:49 (eighteen years ago)

this year i owed federal for the first time ever :/
still received a small state refund as usual

sleep, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 03:46 (eighteen years ago)

Farewell 1st quarterly estimated self-employment tax installment, it was nice having you in the bank for a day or two ;_;

Jaq, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 03:48 (eighteen years ago)

CA income categories include:

Ottoman Turkish Empire Settlement Payments

-- libcrypt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 02:08 (1 hour ago)

iirc, the settlement payments are for a lawsuit won by the descendants of Armenians who fled from Turkey to the US to escape the genocide of 1915

Ol Bertie Dastard, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:04 (eighteen years ago)

(BTW I was laughing at douchecrypt's tax penalty, not the Armenians.)

felicity, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:06 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, the Armenian thing is politically very strong in CA, but it's not as amusing if you explain that income category.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:08 (eighteen years ago)

I owe tax this year, too.

Where's my six hundo?! Government did its dude wrong.

kenan, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:40 (eighteen years ago)

i don't pay that bullshit

mkcaine, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:41 (eighteen years ago)

Oh wait, it's separate. Ok, cool.

kenan, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:44 (eighteen years ago)

xpost lol you don't pay your federal income tax? You must be one smooth mofo.

kenan, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:45 (eighteen years ago)

If you don't make any money, you don't have to pay any tax, kenan.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:47 (eighteen years ago)

Also, if you are paid in cash (e.g., my housekeeper), it's really up to you how much you wanna pay.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:49 (eighteen years ago)

mkcaine is probably total gangsta fat wads of US dolla, so gov't doesn't even know he exists.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:50 (eighteen years ago)

it's really up to you how much you wanna pay.

"Oh, hi, Government. Listen I was thinking about how much I want to pay in taxes this year. Don't take this the wrong way, but... how about zero? Is zero ok with you?"

kenan, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:52 (eighteen years ago)

The world doesn't work like a computer, kenan.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 04:57 (eighteen years ago)


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