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ogod kelly's first mom sucked in comparison!

truth be told, donna wore some of the best outfits. the outfit she had on when she found out her mom was having an affair was particularly omg

Surmounter, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link

oh, i know it was serious. the point is that even at the time, though, it wasn't considered fashion-forward.

lauren, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link

fashion wasn't as big of a part of the show, was it?

wanko ergo sum, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link

xxxxposts to lauren about clothes: yeah it wasnt a big thing except that the girls all wore bodyhugging minidresses to events. sort of like less than zero fashion. i think people were more impressed by mansions than clothes back then?

xxxxxposts...surm i was the same with the kelly brenda dylan thing.

sunny successor, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Jason Priestley was (briefly) hot in Seasons Two and Three. I'm miffed that the DVD collection could not secure the copyrights to the great period music.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't know! i mean, i think you're right in that shows back then weren't necessarily used as runways, but i wouldn't put it past kids watching to idolize that style.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes – lotsa girls copied the girls' dresses in the famous prom episode.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link

GD...i forgot about that kid shooting himself!!

I did flip on to the marathon at some point on monday but i realized dylan and kelly were already together so I didnt bother.

sunny successor, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link

speaking of fashion forward -- obviously, one of the best early episodes is the fashion show, where kelly's mom flips out on coke onstage?

Surmounter, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

haha i flipped it on yesterday, realized the same thing, didn't bother.
for some reason I thought Donna didn't arrive on scene until at least season 2. her outfits were always pretty wtf, even to me back then. wondered how her dad let her wear some of that.
i missed the 1st 20 minutes of the pilot. how does brenda become friends with Kelly and Donna? i really wished it would've stayed in the afterschool special mode and never evolved to full-fledged teen soap.

xp YES! that was the first ep I ever saw, on some rainy Sunday in 1990. Never had even heard of the show at that point, don't know why they were airing it on a weekend afternoon. apparently it wasn't all that popular until the summer beach episodes aired the following year.

Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link

kelly and brenda were sitting together in science i think? or math. and kelly thought brenda looked like fun so she started talking to her

Surmounter, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Brenda meets them in class. Donna wasn't originally intended to play such a part; she's a supporting actress in the first season's credits.

To me it's more touching how The Girls accept Andrea.

Some of the great songs I heard for the first time on "90210":

Pet Shop Boys - "So Hard"
Soho - "Hippychick"
R.E.M. - "You Are The Everything"
Sophie B. Hawkins - "Damn, I Wish I Was Your Lover"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Mrs Walsh is Perfect Mom to a comical degree. Brenda comes home late, arriving in strange man's car (Mrs W peeping out the window sees this). Brenda looks upset, so instead of scolding her, Mrs W is all "aww there there, let's sit on the couch and hug. Oh it's all my fault. I should've been paying more attention to you" or some shit.

Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link

ha yes that guy she meets at what is the place? the blue iguana or some bullshit?

Surmounter, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link

lol @ sophie B!

Surmounter, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah I think it was the Blue Iguana. When they first showed dude eyeing Brenda and sidling up from behind, I was sure it was going to be the Date Rape Episode, but no! she winds up screwing him over. (close to being the Statutory Rape Episode, since before she exits his car she discloses that she had planned to give it up to him that night)(is that actor the guy who played the Famous Singer who comes to the record store for a signing in Empire Records?)

Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

omg and what does she order?

A BANANA DAIQUIRI

Surmounter, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link

thats the only part of the pilot i remember! - kelly grabbing brenda to sit next to her in chemistry because some fat chick was about to and she didnt want to be stuck with a fat chick for a lab partner all year.

sunny successor, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link

hey look:

Brenda and Brandon walk through the hallways, and Brenda asks Brandon to look for her at lunch: she doesn’t want to look like a geek without any friends. Brandon says that together they’ll look like two geeks without any friends. They go to the principal’s office to register, and the principal lists Brandon’s various accomplishments in Minnesota: swim team, sports editor of the paper, cross country and a 3 A average – and Brenda: drama club, school council, and almost a straight A student. “Well, I help her with her homework” Brandon says, his condescending tone setting a precedent for his unctuous, sanctimonious behaviour throughout the show. Can you tell I hate Brandon a little bit? The principal tells them that they’re both achievers, but that West Beverly is tough, which I find hard to believe, and that they should come and talk to him if they have any problems, like that ever has happened in the history of high school.

David Silver says hi to Scott, who can’t find his locker because West Beverly High is so much bigger than junior high. David doesn’t care, though, as the “babes are outrageous”. He’s kind of endearingly loathsome.

Chemistry class, and Mr Ridley announces that they should choose seats carefully, because the person next to them will be their lab partner for the semester. A fat girl walks through the classroom, and people avoid her eye and move their books to avoid being paired with her – because a) fat people are dumb, and b) fat is contagious in Beverly Hills. She comes to Kelly, who babbles that the seat next to her is taken. “By who?” the fat girl demands. Kelly flounders, and points to Brenda, who’s just come in: “by that girl” and beckons her over.

Spanish class, and Brandon takes a seat next to Steve, who is on his gargantuan cell phone. The Spanish teacher introduces herself in Spanish, and announces that the class will be all in Spanish, as everyone stares at her cluelessly, and Steve tells Brandon that it’s bogus that she gets paid to speak her native tongue. The teacher asks in Spanish if anyone understands, and Andrea, in the front row, raises her hand like Lisa Simpson, smiling smugly. She’s the smart one, you see, as if wearing glasses and being slightly less than impeccably-groomed isn’t clue enough.

Brandon enters the newsroom for the school paper and asks for Andrea Zuckerman. “I am she”, Andrea announces ungrammatically, pencil clenched between her teeth, not looking up. “Ola” says Brandon, emphasis on the last syllable, and when Andrea looks exasperated, explains “We’re in Spanish together. I’m Brandon.” “Ola,” says Andrea, looking unimpressed. Brandon tells her that he wants to write for the paper. She asks if he can write, and he says that he was sports editor of his old student newspaper in Minnesota. “Great!” she says unconvincingly, and tells him he can either cover a story on toxic waste disposal in chemistry classes or the girls’ water polo match, and Brandon, predictably, goes for the water polo. Andrea smirks and says he failed her test: she gives all guys who want to work for the paper that choice, and none of them has ever chosen the toxic waste. Brandon was a sports editor, though, so it’s not an entirely fair test. She tells Brandon that she runs the top ranked high school newspaper in the country and she wants to keep it that way, which involves long hours, major deadlines and total commitment. “Wow, you are intense,” he says. He offers to interview the janitor for the toxic waste story, and she tells him it’s the custodial engineer. “And Brandon,” she adds, with a smile that signifies a doomed crush that will last the series, “nice meeting you.”

Lunchtime. Brandon tries to join a few groups of kids sitting at tables, but they all get up and leave, so he settles in to eat lunch alone.

Kelly and Brenda stroll past, as Kelly tells Brenda it’s a good thing she met Kelly when she did: West Beverly isn’t like other schools; the kids are richer, some have famous parents, and so socially it’s intense, you make one false move and you’re history: “if people saw you eating lunch alone like that guy over there…” she says, indicating Brandon, and treacherous Brenda walks faster, changing the subject to her old friend in Minnesota. They sit down next to freakish-looking Tori Spelling – Donna – and Kelly says that she could never deal with the cold in Minnesota: she’d get fat. Brenda tells her it’s great: all winter you can eat whatever you want and hide it under bulky clothes. “That’s definitely not Beverly Hills,” says Kelly, adding that someone’s always throwing a pool party so you never get to pig out. Nonetheless, none of the women around the table look as terrifyingly emaciated as some of the actors in more recent teen soaps – Mischa Barton, I am looking at you – which is pleasantly refreshing.

David and Scott carry their lunch trays and piles of books, complaining about how much homework they’ve got – Scott is worried about his GPA, but David’s more concerned about the effect on his nascent social life. A jock throws something at Scott and he drops his books and tray, while the jocks high-five each other, like the arseholes they are. Suddenly David looks up: there’s a plane is in the sky, which is improbably trailing a banner announcing a back to school party on Friday. David rejoices: “Yes! We are THERE!” Kelly sees the address and tells Brenda that it’s Mary Anne Moore’s house: she’s a very rich party girl, with a house so big you need a map. Brenda can’t believe Mary Anne’s inviting the whole school – 1800 people – and presumably half of Los Angeles as well, given that it’s a plane. I never would have got away with that in high school. They look back up and see another plane trailing a sign saying “no freshman”. But presumably freshmen plural are OK? Or not, as Kelly laughs and says that now it’s only 1500 people. She suggests that she and Brenda go to the party together, and Brenda agrees. Meanwhile, Scott and David look dejected, but David’s still determined to go to the party.

The Walsh twins drive home, and Brenda can’t believe they made it through the first day. Brandon asks what she thought, and she says they’re definitely not in Minnesota any more. Brandon says that it’s weird not knowing anybody, adding helpfully “it’s like I don’t know who they are, they don’t know who I am” – thanks for breaking it down for us like that, Brandon! With a way with words like that, I can see how he’s such an ace reporter. He asks if they’re going to Mary Anne Moore’s party and what time they should get there, adding that it’ll be uncool to show up before ten. Brenda’s face falls, and she says she’s already made plans to go with friends – it’s a girl thing, but he should join them if he wants. Unsurprisingly he refuses such a lacklustre invitation, but tells her to go and have a good time – he’ll see her there.

i LOVE the "babes are outrageous" line

sunny successor, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

kelly: NO FATTEYS PLEASE

my sister was loling at banana daiquiri, too. good writing though! that's exactly what a naive 16 yr old girl would order.

Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

also i completely forgot they were twins!

sunny successor, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

OMG MINNESOTA TWINS

ITS ALL STARTING TO MAKE SENSE!!!!!!

sunny successor, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link

oh god the whole plane thing is that pilot recap LOLarious

sunny successor, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

dude i would've gotten up and left if Mr HockeyHair tried to sit at my lunch table, too.

Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

ugh i guess it was a requirement that they put "looks like we're not in Minnesota anymore, Toto" line in there huh.
mary anne moore was a total fox.

Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

and so COMPLICATED!

Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread needs some YouTube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV8fXDx_2AM

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qCvp5a2tp4

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

OMG OMG OMG OMG SO SOON SO OOOOOSOOSOOOOODFJ

Tape Store, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I am in the airport but could not bring myself to spend $3.95 on the ew or us weekly with Brenda gracing the covers.

tehresa, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

i hope you can watch tonight!

Surmounter, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

What time is it? 8 or 9?

tehresa, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

We have to wait until 10:30 central time, thanks to baseball. But we get two eps in a row!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link

8pm in NY i think

Surmounter, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Crap. I get out of class at 745 so wouldn't get home til 830 or so. Wonder if there's a bar screening it?

tehresa, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

that would actually be really fun! i dunno, hopefully they'll replay it sometime this week -- also, i didn't realize it was 2 hours long!

Surmounter, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I think they are pairing the first two episodes in one airing. On my DVR recording it lists two different episode titles.

Am I going to be really disappointed for getting excited about this?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh no! I don't want to have to wait for rerun or online streaming!

I won't be home any night til Friday. This is going to ruin antm and also I missed gg last night!

tehresa, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

:/ let me know if you need me to fill you in when you get home at 8:30ish! at least it's a long one

Surmounter, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

yikes!
http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-08/41869074.jpg

velko, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

she looks good there!

Surmounter, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

You can barely notice the wonky eye!

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

wonky eye is hot. wonky teeth weren't.

Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link

omg naomi's clothes <3<3<3

Surmounter, Wednesday, 3 September 2008 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link

:D :D :D

Tape Store, Wednesday, 3 September 2008 00:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I love how Jessica Walter is basically just playing Lucille from AD.

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 September 2008 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, I love the Spring Awakening sequence. Are there actually high schools that can get permission to put on Broadway plays a year after that play won the Tony?

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 September 2008 00:50 (sixteen years ago) link

HOLY SHIT. WHAT IS SHE GOING TO DO?

Tape Store, Wednesday, 3 September 2008 00:51 (sixteen years ago) link

liveblogging lol

Tape Store, Wednesday, 3 September 2008 00:51 (sixteen years ago) link

OMGz.

btw, CW: It's not a big deal having a 2 hour premiere if it's still only an hour worth of television and just another hour of commercials.

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 September 2008 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link


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