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OK, a search reveals they have indeed been discontinued. How moronic. I'll try to get one from Jigsaw before they sell out.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, is it possible to use a non-Apple wireless card in an Apple machine? Specifically in my case, under the keyboard of a G3 iBook? It looks like a standard Cardbus slot but I have no idea if it really is. Surely this is a common question.

Paul Eater (eater), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it is

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Our PowerBook has stopped taking cds into the cd drive. You can push the cd in, but it doesn't grab it and suck it in like it's supposed to. I can hear it whirring and trying to do something, but to no avail. Is there any chance this isn't a hardware problem that I'm going to have to get some computer tech guy to fix for us?

St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, is it possible to use a non-Apple wireless card in an Apple machine? Specifically in my case, under the keyboard of a G3 iBook? It looks like a standard Cardbus slot but I have no idea if it really is. Surely this is a common question.

Yes it is but for an eMac you'd need a usb one

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

When I was looking around on Mac Rumors boards someone recommened the Aria Extreme card, but the site says it will only work with G3 Powerbooks, not iBooks, I'm afraid.

I ordered my Airport card from Jigsaw24 today. They still had some.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok, external firewire -- anyone know the deal on enclosures that let you pop an IDE disk in?

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Lots more about it here. It seems that the decision to stop selling Airport cards may have been forced on Apple by one of their suppliers.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

crap, why can't i find one with two firewire ports?

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/tt5350fb.html

hmmm these look good.... maybe I'll get two

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, it looks like the following external thingees have two firewire ports:

Bytecc ME-320F
Speeze Cooler 3.5" USB 2.0 / IEEE1394 External Drive Enclosure, Model "FI320"

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone ever have a problem with a powerbook waking from sleep and losing the wireless connection totally? I can see the network, and the signal strength is very good, but I cannot see any pages on the web or download email. Any ideas? thanks

Mario&Yuko, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

when does the internet work again? on reboot?

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

No, not even on reboot. Or sleep.

Mario&Yuko, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

so, how are you on the internet?

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm at work...the problem is at home.
I tried 'renewing the DHCP lease' whatever that means, in Network Prefs. The connection comes from a Belkin wireless router which works fine with my PC.

Mario&Yuko, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the BELKIN is the problem here

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

fuckabelkin

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, normally when your hard drive goes to sleep you'll lose your network connection, and it can confuse a wireless router. simply recycle the router (unplug the power for 30 seconds and then turn it back on) and it will work on. in the future, have the "put hard drive to sleep after [] minutes" setting off).

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

swtich to linksys or an airport express. belkin is a shit router.

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

It got great reviews in the current Mac User. I was going to buy one.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i have had zero problems with my belkin. not a one.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Savastore are doing the Belkin wireless router with integrated ADSL modem for £57 inc. VAT, which is about £40 less than the Netgear equivalent. My slow crawl to broadband will continue next month.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh - so I got my Airport card and installed it. I'm not going to be able to afford the ADSL connection and router till next month, but just tried to turn the Airport card on for fun, and it detects a network! Just called 'belkin54g'. Don't know where it's coming from.

Can I use this to get fast internet access somehow? How?

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

connect to it and see if it works!

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

most idiots don't secure their wireless networks, let this be a lesson to you when you set up your own!

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

or not set yours up -- free internet

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

#202477 +(2405)- [X]

(Mootar) morons.
(Mootar) these people who live in my apartment complex are connected to my wireless
(Mootar) they must think they're super-cool hackers by breaking into my completely unsecure network
(Mootar) unfortunatly, the connection works both ways
(Mootar) long story short, they now have loads of horse porn on their computer

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Does it work, Nick?

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it would be funny to scam people stealing my internet by logging all their passwords, instant messages, email, etc.

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand what to do in order to use it for high-speed access, though. I mean, under my Airport menu bar thing, it has 'belkin54g' ticked, but other than that, it doesn't seem to be doing anything. It's not in my Finder or anything, not that I want to look at their files or anything.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

our linksys wireless router is being a pain in the arse, I'm fearing for ever connecting to broadband

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

1) uh, use the internet connect wizard to connect to their wireless connection
2) you are on the internet
3) profit

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i have a toshiba laptop and sometimes i connect to the internet using lynskeys but other times it doesnt connect. i use the connect wizard, why does it switch back and forth like this?

kephm, Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

why does nobody listen to me?
HORSE PR0N!!!11

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i think we live in different apartments

kephm, Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, OK. I went to Internet Connect and changed it from 'Internal modem' to 'Airport'. Then I tried accessing the internet. Didn't seem to connect to anything. I guess that means no free lunch, then. Does this mean they have no internet connection on their wireless network, that they lock out unauthorised users, or that I needed to change some other setting? The signal strength meter was only about a third full, if that makes any difference.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure Apple's help has a troubleshooting guide.

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

You're right. This was a somewhat frivolous request for help borne of excitement at magical things happening somewhere in my street.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

alba, sometimes just moving rooms makes a difference with the connection.

kephm, Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

you should check if you actually got an IP address, etc via DHCP

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, it's not a laptop so I can't be bothered moving it.

Sorry Jon, I don't know what that means.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh - hang on, I underestimate myself.

Under Network Preferences, I discover I do indeed have an Airport IP address that is different to the one from my dialup connection.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

It says "169.254.123.104 (Self-assigned)"

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

self assigned = your computer tried to generate one that could feasibly work but most likely won't

try to setup airport to get a DHCP address and then bring it up again

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

How do I do that? Sorry to be useless - feel free to give up on me if you want.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

(copied from ILM)

Ha, I've got a laptop question for anyone kind enough to help out. I got my editing studio set up last night with my PC laptop (Cubase, Reason, external hard drive, no problems).
However, I've got some studio monitors with XLR and 1/4" outs and no cable. Do I just need to get an adapter to plug them into the 1/8" headphone jack of my laptop, and is this the best way to do things? I wasn't going to buy an external sound card because I'm just planning on doing editing, not recording, on this setup. I just want to make sure the 1/8" laptop connection will be okay for quality/power.

I'm computer-retarded btw.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost to airport question -- are you in OS X?

http://web.mit.edu/is/services/network/dhcp/wireless/macos10.3.html

has a bit telling you how to set it to DHCP

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Mario&Yuko (and maybe Alba too) -- try going to Active Network Ports in the Network preferences and disabling, applying, then reenabling, the wireless connection.

Paul Eater (eater), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I went through all that, Jon. All the setting were already as dictated (I'm on 10.2.8 rather than 10.3, but it all looked the same). I moved Airport above Internal Modem in the list of Network Port Configurations too.

When I open Internet Connect and switch to Airport, I get 'Status: Status not available' at the bottom, instead of the 'Connected to blah blah', send/receive bars and IP address reading that I get with Internal Modem.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)


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