and mcgovern's autobio which is folksy & charming
― and what, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link
probly should get around to the grant book one of these days
morbs, fyi, 'stalwart' is an adjective. you're probably referring to O's statement that Israel is a 'stalwart ally' of the US, but maybe you intended to refer to his statement that Israel's security is 'sacrosanct'.
― gabbneb, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link
box 13!
caro's biography = is lbj actually president yet (as per the published volumes)? is caro still even alive?
― mark s, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost Ethan, I'm really glad you clarified that, but if you haven't read DWMF, you really aren't in a place to say whether it's WHOA INCREDIBLE or not. I stand by my opinion.
― suzy, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Mark, Master of the Senate ends with LBJ as veep, chastened and chomping at the bit.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link
ethan, fyi, the praise for Obama's (first) book, at least outside of ilx, is for the self-knowledge it exhibits more than the writing (tho people think that's pretty good too)
― gabbneb, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link
though im reasonably sure its "pretty good for a politician" expectations not "pretty good for a black dude"
you think?
All of you that are dissing Dave and his band, obviously haven't given him a chance. Actually try to listen to them then you may discover that they aren't bad. Dont judge them without knowing what they are all about. They are making millions and usually boring music doesn't do that. The reason for that is because they are great musicians. I love all kinds of music so dont even try judging the fans either. You dont know them or me you have no right to say stuff about us. Sure some of you may be offended about his one line "hike up your skirt a little more and show the world to me" come on its not nearly as bad as half the rap that is played twice or sometimes 3 times as much as what Dave gets played on the radio.
-- Kara, Friday, June 6, 2003 11:51 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link
― and what, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link
caro is the brigadier pudding of actual real reality
"not nearly as bad as half the rap that is played twice" <-- you do the math!
― mark s, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link
What I heard from my mother that day, speaking about my father, was something I suspect most Americans will never hear from the lips of those of another race, and so cannot be expected to believe might exist between black and white
you don't need to have read the whole book to know that this could have used some tightening
― J0hn D., Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:21 (sixteen years ago) link
The Caro Biography of LBJ does seem a bit liek a Hawkwind boxset with every outtake, bootleg and demo thrown in published in the form of a partwork.
― Ed, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link
"More of his penis went turgid" <-- tightening
― mark s, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link
The idea of LBJ ripped on acid and wailing at the top of his lungs...is more Texan than I realized.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link
when people praise the language in Obama's (first) book, they may be referring more to the interweaving of narrative and themes and ability to evoke thoughts and feelings than the tautness of the sentences
― gabbneb, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link
LEAVE MAH PECKER OUT OF THIS
http://www.archives.gov/press/press-kits/picturing-the-century-photos/images/lbj-and-richard-russell.jpg
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link
tautness is all politics: gettysburg address = 243 words long <--- this is the mark we are huntin
― mark s, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link
"Unintentionally Homoerotic Oval Office Imagery"
― suzy, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link
haha "tautness is all IN politics"
(it is apparently possible to be too compressed!)
"Unintentionally" <--- OO I SO DON'T THINK
― mark s, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah oh LBJ big proponent of 'accidentally' showing cock to underline alphadawg status, amirite?
― suzy, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link
yes "the vantage point" = lbj givin orders while takin shit w.door open
also: "better inside the tent pissing out than outside pissing in"
also also: LBJ: "say he had carnal knowledge of his hog herd" minion: "wah boss we can't call him 1 x pigfucker"* LBJ: "i wanna hear him deny it"
(*root of neverstarted lester bangs project-title "a history of pig-fucking" and hence proto-noize alt-rock strand pigfuck)
lbj wz punk
― mark s, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link
The Audacity of Pig Fucking
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link
APFestival
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link
yea ohb's flaw will turn out to be that this is NOT the secret title
― mark s, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link
flaw 2: his pastor was not samuel delany :(
― mark s, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Teh visions that inspires, Mark.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 May 2008 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link
"I'd like to read from Neveryona, chapter 2..."
hogg is what put him in mind :/
― mark s, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link
is there like a secret cult of lbj I didn't know about
― J0hn D., Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd say you stumbled into it. Now show us your pecker.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:26 (sixteen years ago) link
or yr surgery scar.
someone plz show gobbknob how to recognize adjectives.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Hmm, here I was thinking the 'surgery scar' was a placeholder for Lyndon Baines' Jewels.
― suzy, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link
http://jeff.pasleybrothers.com/images/LBJ_scar.jpg
― mark s, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link
you say subtext i say domtext
― mark s, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link
YOU ARE A GOLDEN GOD
― J0hn D., Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link
lincoln = greatest american writer (gore vidal once said this, and i kinda sorta believe it).
i read one of nixon's books years and years ago and all i remember is the incredibly hilarious chapter where he tries to explain watergate and there's like 5,000 paragraphs in a row that all begin like "the most foolish misunderstanding about watergate was...", "the most ridiculous assertion about watergate was...", "the most ironic charge about watergate was..."
― J.D., Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link
hey, i was there, maaaan
― gabbneb, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link
In the Arena's got a photo of Nixon writing a speech, arm of his glasses in his mouth. The caption: "Even writing one line takes hours of concentrated thought."
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link
in the arena! i think that was it.
― J.D., Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link
didn't pat buchanan write nixon's farewell address?
The success of the Obama administration will largely depend on the quality of his advisors and appointments. There's no way to know what his administrative style will be. I know he's bright enough to figure out a lot of this stuff and correct his mistakes, but he won't enter office with much margin for error.
I don't worry about his ability to conduct diplomacy with other nations. I don't worry about his ability to conceive and propose budget priorities or legislation. I wonder about his ability to stay in front of the public opinion parade in the USA, what with the attack machine (Fox news, Scaife and Coors throwing millions around, conservative think tanks, etc.) grinding 24 hours a day trying to steer the conversation onto whatever trivia they deem useful to their ends.
It's a pretty big shitstorm to stand in the middle of and still have the time, energy and focus to accomplish good things.
― Aimless, Thursday, 1 May 2008 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link
This could be said about any president ever.
Also:
I wonder about his ability to stay in front of the public opinion parade in the USA, what with the attack machine (Fox news, ILE, Scaife and Coors throwing millions around, conservative think tanks, etc.)
Fixed.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 May 2008 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Sure. The things I identified don't even begin to approach critical flaws. They're kind of givens.
But then, I don't see any evidence that Obama is beset by major flaws that would prevent him from being a good president. I do see good reasons to think he would be an excellent president. I can only speculate.
I do think it is good to mention this stuff, though. It's good to remind the more gung-ho fro either Obama or Clinton that a campaign is different from governing, and that even good candidates with undoubted talents can be ensnared in a failed administration, due to encounters with problems that are beyond their ability to solve.
It's fine to get your hopes up, but don't consider them guaranteed by the "right" outcome of the election.
― Aimless, Thursday, 1 May 2008 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Later at a Lincoln Park nightclub, Obama spoke to a raucous crowd of music fans, who paid up to $500 per person to see a performance by Wilco lead singer Jeff Tweedy, and two other band members.
"Before these guys go, I want them to know that I had heard a rumor that they had suggested that I had nothing by them on my iPod," Obama said. "That is not true. I love Wilco."
― velko, Saturday, 12 July 2008 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link
love is over
― gabbneb, Saturday, 12 July 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link
so it was an alt-country cowboy hat
― Hurting 2, Saturday, 12 July 2008 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link
There's nothing wrong with a little Wilco on your ipod. And I'd rather he pander to voters through questionable music taste than questionable policy positions.
― Super Cub, Saturday, 12 July 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link
lol xp
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 12 July 2008 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link
-- Super Cub, Saturday, July 12, 2008 3:07 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
you obama maniacs sure do some rhetorical backflips to support this guy!! first his stance on civil unions, now his stance on wilco ... does the man have any principles??
― deej, Saturday, 12 July 2008 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link
he'll throw wilco under the bus if he needs to
― Hurting 2, Saturday, 12 July 2008 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link