but the whole idea of making a "serious" documentary about a subject to later turn it into an exercise of ridicule and laughter is the essence of the american movie/american scooby parallel.
― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:20 (twenty years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:21 (twenty years ago) link
Every time I hear about that "plastic in the wind" thing it reminds me of how much that character was just some bullshitting corny indie fucker trying to get laid with some false sincerity and DV cam shots of a Rite Aid bag.Which is quite the metaphor for the movie itself. (And it worked, Sam Mendes is married to Kate Winslet)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:22 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago) link
whydoyouthink@hewascoveredinblood.com
― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:31 (twenty years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:33 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:37 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:38 (twenty years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:46 (twenty years ago) link
"yi yi" is utterly remarkable, though.
i don't think "american beauty" is terribly made at all. it's not terribly imaginative, but much more than competent. but i found the compacency and confusion of the screenplay very hard to take, and i uterrly loathe kevin spacey's acting.
― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 19:56 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:04 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:06 (twenty years ago) link
― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:06 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:12 (twenty years ago) link
― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:33 (twenty years ago) link
― SEAN PENN (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:44 (twenty years ago) link
it's much worse than that!
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 21:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Knife Magnet (Barima), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 21:51 (twenty years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 22:17 (twenty years ago) link
― martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago) link
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 22:22 (twenty years ago) link
A friend of mine went to see Fleetwood Mac at the Hollywood Bowl with Edward Norton and Kevin Spacey. Just the three of them. He said that Spacey a) was rude and totally ignored him, b) was really disappointed that Courtney was out of town and kept bringing it up, c) changed into his "rock concert clothes" [a satin jacket and a beanie] in the limo and d) kept shifting around uncomfortably in his seat and pulling down the beanie when he thought he was being recognized even though he was in the VIP section and surrounded by other celebrities.
He sounds like such an ass.
-- Arthur
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link
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― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 22:26 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 June 2004 07:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 October 2005 02:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link
Alan Ball = Golden Girls writer (really, he was)
"The image of the floating plastic bag was taken from the avant-garde filmmaker Nathaniel Dorsky's silent work Variations. Dorsky has been remarkably gracious about this, but the fact remains that American Beauty's most original moment was stolen, which goes some way towards explaining why this lyrical paean to the world's beauty seems so strangely disconnected from the conventional satire of middle-class life which comprises the majority of the film."
http://www.nd.edu/~pwicks/journalism/americanbeauty.html
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 27 October 2005 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― sub-dwayne nelson (dr g), Thursday, 27 October 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 27 October 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 27 October 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link
will anyone still rep for this movie?
― s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link