Just stared at this for a whole episode of family guy. I got nuthin.
― ledge, Monday, 9 August 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)
as long as it's not just me and my bro tbh
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, nothing here, and I tried it just after watching Sherlock, which should have given me the deductive skills to get it. Keep thinking the 'dawn' has to be an allusion of some kind.
o crap, wait, I sort of see - is it misdirecting then flagging up its own misdirection? ie dawn is *just* there to mislead on the sense of 'broke' (which serves as the definition, despite being mid-clue), then telling you 'the answer ≈ broke, but in another sense to do with poverty'.
That's an unacceptable clue by UK crossword standards imo.
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 09:53 (fifteen years ago)
that reading would be as strange for crosaire as it would anywhere else though.
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:13 (fifteen years ago)
re: mid clue definitions though, tis an interesting point. it is possible to construct legitimate clues that way, and some barred-grid setters use them. you just have to try and stick the def inbetween two bits of wordplay (e.g. anag fodder, anag indicator), like so:
hero's a nag, when upset (5)
― ledge, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:24 (fifteen years ago)
well that's legit, but it's a hell of a jump from that (also 'a nag' deliberate or not?) to throwing in a random word with a sketchy indication to ignore it.
i don't think it's a runner in this instance, based on 15 odd years with these particular crosswords.
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:26 (fifteen years ago)
but why dawn? if it's just there as misdirection, then that's not on.
xpost
― ailsa, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:27 (fifteen years ago)
dawn broke in not so poor a way as this
destitute
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)
i mean you'd be looking for 'dawn broke' as the puzzle piece to go along with the 'poor state' straight definition, it's as simple as that. just not.
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:31 (fifteen years ago)
agree that dawn-as-misdirection is an obscenity, but I just can't see any other way to account for it. But I'm not really convinced myself, & wld be happier if we found a poem by Thomas Moore about the Undestitute Sunrise or something.
& re mid-clue defs, yes that doesn't feel too bad if it's fairly easy & used in moderation, but I'm not used to it & frankly fear a world where defs can be anywhere and letter jumbles are separated from anagram indicators.
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:58 (fifteen years ago)
Jagger and Johnson get Ailsa in a state (9)
― au secours madison (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)
louisiana
― Not the real Village People, Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)
something i hastily constructed for a birthday card for my dad. not tricky, just a bit of fun.
1___21|_|_|_| |_|X|_|3|_|_|_|
Across1 Hill start leads to hesitation and sound of motor spinning (3)3 Irishman is apt to be confused (3)
Down1 It's hard work to jump (3)2 Join up in home town (3)
― ledge, Friday, 10 September 2010 10:25 (fifteen years ago)
ack, should be 'joined up'
― ledge, Friday, 10 September 2010 10:26 (fifteen years ago)
humoepat
― koogs, Friday, 10 September 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)
otm
― ledge, Friday, 10 September 2010 11:28 (fifteen years ago)
no shortage at the baker's ball (9)
soft one to get it rollin again
― illiterate mods are killing ilx (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 September 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
ho ho
― ledge, Thursday, 16 September 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17216/17216-h/images/020-04.png
altho they look more like potatoes imo
― ledge, Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)
yeah well get to it
― illiterate mods are killing ilx (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)
Public Relations acquire copy of The Times, say (5)
― ledge, Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
Paper?
― pissky in the jar (onimo), Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_222t5surOxk/R6olVKh6M3I/AAAAAAAAAoE/HM21K7BCHuw/s400/hooray.gif
― ledge, Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)
Orthodox type to convert natives all over the place, despite loss of holy book (12)
― ledge, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)
aboriginals?
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)
with a random letter at the end, like
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)
most of all you're letting yourself down
― ledge, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)
conservatives
― portrait of velleity (woof), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)
without the s
the second s
ayup
― ledge, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)
dealing with hounding press reporter, feel it was allowable in circumstances tbh
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)
what was the baker one?
― Not the real Village People, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)
a bun dance
― ledge, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)
*groan, etc*
yeah i know but it's a crosaire standard and i thought it'd give ye a laugh
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)
like it!
― Not the real Village People, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)
maybe i'll do a bit of a trawl later and have a few like it to hand for again
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)
yeah man we could always do with more activity here, don't mind if its cribbed from other sources.
― ledge, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)
grand i dont do them every day but next time a few clues catch my eye i'll post em.
that said would welcome another batch of the ones Gravel Puzzleworth (?) posted before they were kinda hardcore
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)
(bit iffy, this one)
Stolen small bed again (7)
― meta the devil you know (onimo), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)
cribbed
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)
y
― meta the devil you know (onimo), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)
hmm could try to work in 'double bed' tbh
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)
staying the french with cockney possession (7)
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
sorry,
not staying the french with cockney possession(7)
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)
leaving
― When Redd Turns To Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)
pfft
took longer to come up with the fecking thing
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)
Paul being annoying in today's guardian:
soldier, daft don (8)
― portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:39 (fifteen years ago)
^ friend got that, I was all GRRRRR but :) but GRRRRR
― ledge, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, swore/laughed when I got it. Paul can be a real dick. My favourite setter.
1ac/d also great, but needs checked letters, and too long to enter on phone.
― portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)