quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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Has McGinley progressed beyond being a slightly less creepy Terry Richardson? Hated all the shit he did for Vice when they were on the rise.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Friday, 6 August 2010 05:09 (fifteen years ago)

ryan mcginley is totally not what i was talking about. the stuff i posted looks like when you get a roll of film back and you go "i def didn't take this photo"

plax (ico), Friday, 6 August 2010 07:13 (fifteen years ago)

A.O. Scott in self contorting head scratcher

http://movies.nytimes.com/2010/08/13/movies/13eat.html?8dpc=&pagewanted=2

"So many people in this world confront much graver threats to their well-being: violence, poverty, oppression. This woman has nothing but good luck! True enough, but the kind of class consciousness that would blame Liz for feeling bad about her life and then taking a year abroad to cure what ails her strikes me as a bit disingenuous — a way of trivializing her trouble on the grounds of gender without having to come out and say so."

Um...on the grounds of gender WHUT?

Hadrian VIII, Saturday, 14 August 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

Would rather eat glass than sit through even the trailer for this movie again

Hadrian VIII, Saturday, 14 August 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

http://cdn.babble.com/famecrawler/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/M-003_DF-045921.jpg

Hadrian VIII, Saturday, 14 August 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

Gross.

Jenny, Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

http://i37.tinypic.com/35hpsv9.jpg

I DIED, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 05:32 (fifteen years ago)

“When I was growing up, the guys were always talking big melons,” said Mr. Bright, a retired biology teacher and school administrator who got into the big-melon game in 1973.

I DIED, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 05:33 (fifteen years ago)

it's like the twee, ruling class twist on the chris rock bit about the big piece of chicken

be my anchor baby (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 05:35 (fifteen years ago)

loool i just helped myself to this joke

max, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 07:08 (fifteen years ago)

i mean the times is clearly in on it

but "low hanging fruit"

am i right

max, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 07:08 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/magazine/22Adulthood-t.html?_r=1

the disappearance of apollo creed (s1ocki), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty much beaten to death and turned into fertilizer here:

This is a Thread for ILXORS IN THEIR 20s!11!!!!!!!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

I'm proud of our guys and gals in their 20s, they sure know how to take down a piece of crappy journalism

.. help? (admrl), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/18/nyregion/18about.html?_r=1

Lamp, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

loser loses thing

the disappearance of apollo creed (s1ocki), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

its not about money its about emotions the things u feel

Lamp, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

You realize a homeless person is now wearing those suit pants and they're probably the nicest thing he's ever put on before. There are probably also holes and food stairs and dirt and urine on them already but don't think about that, it'll just bum you out.

Jesus doesn't want me for a thundercloud (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)

Holy shit, I just realized that a friend's mom wrote that NYT piece about 20-somethings.

I am filled with internal conflict.

Jenny, Thursday, 19 August 2010 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

and indecision about your life and career path?

the disappearance of apollo creed (s1ocki), Thursday, 19 August 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

What? No. I'm 37. That kind of bullshit is for 20-somethings.

Jenny, Thursday, 19 August 2010 23:10 (fifteen years ago)

The friend must be feeling really happy now. "Gee, THANKS MOM."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 August 2010 23:28 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/t-magazine/22talk-jacobs-t.html

Jenny, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

Which is more annoying? The school or the author's strange fixation on what everybody is wearing?

Jenny, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

“Kind!” shouts young Mia, resplendent in blue leggings, a pink oxford-cloth shirt and fuchsia toenail polish under her Salt-Water sandals.

new nadirs, every week.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

those descriptions really add an indispensable vividness to this interesting piece of journalism

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

the school sounds okay, like i can imagine that being a pretty cute scene, but as described and written it's just horrible.

('_') (omar little), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

it's the "resplendent" that really sends it over the edge, but the hyper-detailed wardrobe itemizing is some vogue/bret easton ellis wtf hybrid, especially in the (admittedly debased) context of the times.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

Since the city’s bobos are now making their own pickles and ice cream, why not mold little minds as well?

like how can this not be a joke? i know, i know...i ask this every time i read anything style-y in the times. but COME ON.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

“My son is going to a public pre-K in the fall, and I am somewhat terrified.”

lene lovage (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

It's like these outfit descriptions are supposed to signify something that will make us all nod our heads sagely and say, "Ah, yes, these kind of people" and I am just too ignorant to get it.

Jenny, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

haha the real problem is that it's impossible to tell if this lady is being sardonic w.r.t. to the clothing descriptions or honestly effusive.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

Eight months pregnant with the couple’s third child, a girl, she is the epitome of the glamour mama, utterly lacking the whiff of patchouli one might associate with the home-schooling movement.

ok this person has absolutely no idea about homeschooling in this country at all. patchouli? gtfo

lene lovage (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, what

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

moms that homeschool smell like cigarettes

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

i also like the unintended implication that having being pregnant with a girl is tres chic

lene lovage (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

2.
Crimson Wife
S.F. Bay Area
August 23rd, 2010
1:58 pm
Those kids aren't being homeschooled- they are attending a "cottage school". I didn't see any evidence in the article that the parents are actually taking on any of the responsibility for educating their children themselves. There have always been a certain percentage of rich families who have their children tutored. The only twist with this is that the tutoring is being done with a small group.

Can't the NYT find any ACTUAL homeschooling families? Ones where the parents are not outsourcing the teaching duties to some third party?

^^^^

buzza, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

many of these [ field trips are ] lovingly documented in lush color on the school’s blog. (The annual class photos are in black and white).

why would you even

i mean

lene lovage (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

in COLOR?!? color photography!?!? what a crazy idea!!

piranha karenina (s1ocki), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

See, again, I feel like there's some message there that I'm just not getting, because this is the beginning of that paragraph:

But what of the socioeconomic diversity such classrooms afford, and the oft-leveled charge that home schooling isolates children in a privileged bubble of their parents’ making? “It’s hard,” Betterton concedes. “It’s a self-selecting group of people. But that’s one of the reasons we are constantly outside in the world.”

I don't know what the author is trying to say, but I have "Black or White" stuck in my head now, so maybe I did get the message?

Jenny, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

i was really just puzzled at the unprompted mention that the class photos are black & white because, i dunno, b&w photos are supposed to be more tasteful and artistic? or maybe b&w class photos are just so *unconventional*? anyway it is obviously very important to mention! these are unconventional kids, being raised unconventionally! artistically, even!

xpost

lene lovage (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

Or maybe the author is saying that the outside world is colorful but the bubble of the school is boring black and white, and black and white school photos prove that the parents are well aware of this?

Jenny, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

The real question is why am I putting so much thought into teasing out what this NYT style section dingaling is trying to say about a bunch of rich alternaschooling parents in NYC?

Jenny, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

i would be wary of ascribing that much intent; easier to understand as just bad writing imo xp

lene lovage (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

Reading into NYT style pieces for intentional depth and symbolism and metaphor is going to be my trigger for a serious delusional episode. IT IS TALKING TO ME! DIRECTLY TO ME!!!!

Jenny, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/07/business/07flier.html

what is the point of this article, really

grandma: smells and textures :: 180 (dayo), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:05 (fifteen years ago)

that's like roger sterling talking into his tape recorder

real s1ock (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:28 (fifteen years ago)

That was like a sort of almost-interesting blog post. That is a terrible opening sentence.

Jesse, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:47 (fifteen years ago)

Which is more annoying? The school or the author's strange fixation on what everybody is wearing?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:07 (2 weeks ago)

This is one of my major writing pet peeves -- sentences that go "I spoke with Carla, a ____, _____ woman wearing a _____ and carrying a ______ handbag" -- as though the author thinks detail per se makes for good writing.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:47 (fifteen years ago)

That reminds me of descriptions I've heard of the Sookie Stackhouse books, with details about Sookie's 80s fashions.

Jesse, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:54 (fifteen years ago)


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