it's a good, thoughtful piece but it only deals with the movie on its own terms
― let it sb (acoleuthic), Thursday, 5 August 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)
(the movie's)
He then told me there's a film called 'The Woman In The Window' as an excellent comparison.
this is just a mediocre semi-noir with an 'it was all a dream' ending. really got nothing to do with 'inception' other than 'dreams n shit'.
― unchill english bro (history mayne), Thursday, 5 August 2010 17:26 (fifteen years ago)
Another undeserving critical darling into the dustbin of history mayne.
― Generation Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 5 August 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)
it's not really a critical darling i don't think
― unchill english bro (history mayne), Thursday, 5 August 2010 17:31 (fifteen years ago)
OK, but my personal reaction to Inception is that yes, I was thrilled, and yes, I was taken with it, but unless we go by these ridiculous internet theories, this film doesn't leave much in the mind to analyse - it's all spelt out for the purposes of fulfilling Nolan's vision - and while it might be a film ABOUT action movies, and their divorced-from-reality nature, it doesn't handle its unreality with enough unreality IMO.
The thing about having to dream to wake up - subtle commentary on the adrenaline-junkie movie-obsessed public? I hope not
but if you turn your mind down*, as I frequently did throughout its duration, I'll accept it's one of the coolest things ever
*LIKE IF YOU WERE DREAMING EH
― let it sb (acoleuthic), Thursday, 5 August 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)
guys, i love u all, but a thousand new answers every day on this thread is too much. i'm unbookmarking. good look untangling the dense complex plot (and cultural significance) of Inception. you are all doing god's work. (god is a lazy stoner who likes watching flicks like Inception and figuring them out, fwiw)
― Mordy, Thursday, 5 August 2010 18:20 (fifteen years ago)
yeah it's sorta well known that watching films actually puts your brain into something very close to a dream state
b.s.
― by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 5 August 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)
i can vouch for this movie putting me in a sleep state, but weirdly no dreams.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 5 August 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
http://j.imagehost.org/0359/2euqve1.jpg
― ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, 5 August 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)
it's a bit of a cliche, yes, but i thought it was generally thought to be true? just found this in fact: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/07/the-neuroscience-of-inception/
― ryan, Thursday, 5 August 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)
wouldn't be surprised if studies like that inspired the scriptThis strong intersubject correlation shows that, despite the completely free viewing of dynamical, complex scenes, individual brains “tick together” in synchronized spatiotemporal patterns when exposed to the same visual environment.
― ryan, Thursday, 5 August 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)
i don't know if it is a related study, but there was some work done on blinking synchronization between subjects watching the same movies, and I might be mixing this up with another study, but movie editors gravitate towards cutting scenes right when you are about to blink, and there was some confusion whether the viewer alters his natural blinking pattern or if the editor is instinctually editing to a universal blink time.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 5 August 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)
b-b-but if it's a cliche and is generally thought to be true then it must be wrong, innit?
― flintstones in my passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:43 (fifteen years ago)
This strong intersubject correlation shows that, despite the completely free viewing of dynamical, complex scenes, individual brains “tick together” in synchronized spatiotemporal patterns when exposed to the same visual environment.
yes for many types of films (e.g. hitchcock) there is amazing correlation between the cognitive activities of the viewing audience. the links between the patterns of activity in dreaming and film watching, even as explained in that gloss on uri hasson's research (which is fascinating btw, worth reading the original articles), seems very tenuous and broad to me.
― by another name (amateurist), Friday, 6 August 2010 03:55 (fifteen years ago)
― flintstones in my passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, August 5, 2010 4:43 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
are you suggesting that this was my reasoning. any evidence for this?
or are haters just going to hate, as a wise man once said?
Just pick one from here:http://i50.tinypic.com/vg0kmx.jpg
― flintstones in my passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 August 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)
set to become a classic image
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 6 August 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)
Anyway, Leo thanks you all.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 August 2010 21:11 (fifteen years ago)
finally saw this. very cool. don't care about an emotional connection and don't want to see it twice.
― bnw, Friday, 6 August 2010 22:50 (fifteen years ago)
^ my college dating experiences in a nutshell
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 10:54 (fifteen years ago)
Finally saw this last night and really enjoyed it, fuck the haters. Plus it was free, so there.
A few thoughts based on reading about 75% of this thread:
1. Ned Raggett, HI DERE and Scik Mouthy are the only ILXors I ever want to see a movie with. The rest of y'all don't know how to watch movies.
2. How can you not love a movie in which the bulk of the action takes place in the 15 seconds it takes for a van to fall from a bridge to the river below?
3. I REALLY appreciated that Nolan never, ever once succumbed to the instinct to insert shots showing them all asleep on the plane. That would have taken people completely out of the movie.
4. Anti-grav hotel fight was amazing.
5. Ken Watanabe's "I bought the airline. I figured it was safer" was THE laugh line of the movie.
― thanks for the feedback (supra) (Phil D.), Monday, 9 August 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)
Too kind of you there.
I REALLY appreciated that Nolan never, ever once succumbed to the instinct to insert shots showing them all asleep on the plane
Now that you mention it that's a completely OTM point!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 August 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)
http://heavytext.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/NewImage5.jpg
(reposted)
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)
Also, I can't help imagining -- if one accepts the premise that Cobb is dreaming at the end -- the alternate ending in which the plane arrives at LAX and the crew has to explain the two comatose passengers in first class.
― thanks for the feedback (supra) (Phil D.), Monday, 9 August 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)
I thought the dreaming argument is that the entire movie happens while Cobb is asleep, so there's no actual "plane"
― people are for loving (HI DERE), Monday, 9 August 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)
^
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)
we never meet a real cobb, as far as we know the entire cast is lolmaginary
wait doesn't the sandman from the first batman movie have the ability to give you messed up dreams? this would explain the weird number of same actor cameos.though i can't guess why bruce wayne would dream he's dicaprio.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 9 August 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
i mean scarecrow, sandman is another dc property.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 9 August 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cas/1885612350.html
― cozen, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)
Oh dear.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)
"I want you to come dressed as your favorite character from Inception."
so...a suit
― ('_') (omar little), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
Pete Postelthwaite was in a gown. Though I fear for anyone naming him as a favorite character.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
At least that gave me a new display name.
― a mix of music (Lionel Ritchie) and kicks (my tongue) (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)
http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/images/feed_assets/inception-someecards.jpg
― no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 17:12 (fifteen years ago)
misspelling of michael caine detracts from joke :(
― turtles all the way down (mh), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 18:11 (fifteen years ago)
Or adds to it, depending on your pov
― no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)
[squintingleo.jpg]
― Bali Eiffel Tower Hai (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)
this was all right, like a B–, maybe. But seriously I could've done without the retarded action sequences. If they had been (a) better or (b) weirder or (c) shorter I would've liked this movie a lot more. i'm quickly reaching my saturation point with brooding, troubled, leonardo dicaprio. also something about 'what dreams may come'
― Eggs, Peaches, Hot Dogs, Lamb (remy bean), Saturday, 14 August 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)
So somebody figured out that music sounds different when slowed down or sped up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVf6NBHI0Ac
― a mix of music (Lionel Ritchie) and kicks (my tongue) (Phil D.), Saturday, 14 August 2010 13:18 (fifteen years ago)
Finally saw this and hugely disappointed. A great set-up squandered on banal shoot-'em-ups, a boringly obvious ending, nil emotional engagement and no sense whatsoever of the strangeness of dreaming. I honestly fell asleep for 10 minutes and started dreaming and was disappointed when I woke up in the middle of the snowfight bullshit. And I was expecting to love this.
Good bits:
Ellen Page warping the scenery in her first attempt at dream architecture.The way the subconscious projections became suspicious and started turning on the extractors (a great, creepy idea wasted by having hordes of gunmen in Cillian Murphy's dream)Tom HardyThe bit where they kept kicking Levitt's chair ever to demonstration "the kick". Good slapstick.
Bad bits: too many to list without sounding like a dick.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Saturday, 14 August 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)
are you joking or...
― christopher dullan (Tape Store), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)
Incept deez nuts
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)
such a cop out saying that a good movie has to say something about the human condition. i fart in that general direction
secondly, did yall know that B-movies can be better than A-movies despite the labeling? (you might know, but I'm just making sure)
thirdly, I feel like the only guy in this thread who can review this movie without mentioning Nolan. I don't care who he is and you don't have to know who he is to review this movie
fourthly, Josh in Chicago mentions 'innate silliness' as if that is necessarily a bad thing
― you doesn't hasta call me johnson (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)
I think my main problem with this movie is that I never felt the stakes, the sense of danger. The worst case scenario -- limbo -- seemed pretty pleasant compared to, you know, death. You never really got a sense of what these people had to lose if they never woke up, and we never saw what it looked like to be in limbo from the perspective of the real world. Does it look ugly? As far as I could tell you just look like you're taking a nap.
If Leo missed his kids so much, then why did he spend mental years upon years in a fantasy mental world without them? Didn't really buy that aspect of the story at all. I mean, he grew old with Mal before she killed herself. How did he feel when he woke up after decades away from his children? None of that was really explored.
Instead you have a movie that is essentially just a structural contraption with cool visuals, and that is plenty enough to entertain me, but there's nothing there to make me want to revisit it.
― no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)
i think a lot of people had that problem (hence people mention that they were falling asleep during the film). a lot of people were feeling the thrill and maybe the sense of danger (and were not bored).
maybe you should see the movie again-= b u t o n d r u g s =-
― you doesn't hasta call me johnson (CaptainLorax), Sunday, 15 August 2010 03:29 (fifteen years ago)
ya'll makin for a good list of people never to see movies with
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Sunday, 15 August 2010 03:32 (fifteen years ago)
Alls I know is me, Capt. Lorax, Dan and Ned are going to the movies.
― a mix of music (Lionel Ritchie) and kicks (my tongue) (Phil D.), Sunday, 15 August 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)