Veronica Mars

I was being pretty glib about most TV characters being hateable, and that doesn't apply to V Mars for me (I even like Logan!) but there are definitely shows I enjoy where I don't like any of the characters but for some reason I can't remember what they are right now.

3 is a total drag, though I vaguely recall liking the Paul Rudd ep and the final one. Bizarre that they pulled the old "let's send them all to the same college" TV move and then you hardly see Wallace and Mac (iirc) once they get there. Also, they make Veronica genuinely unpleasant, judgmental, and rash.

Yeah, it's pretty rough. I guess it was silly to keep watching and expect it to get better. I did like the last episode, though.

So ep. 6 was OK, but now (scanning these recent posts) I'm a bit worried. Do I watch til the end of season one then cut and run? Season 2? Half of season 2?

Watch all of Season 2 or none of it. Watching half of it is sort of pointless.

jesus, all of it is worth watching!

can't believe the dad of the deceased girl - can you tell i'm crap with names - is that dude from homicide!!!!

yeah it is! funny. i don't think i've seen him in anything else.

Kyle Secor was in an episode of The Closer last night! He gets around

kinda sad they didn't get to do fbi season 4 with walton goggins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG_dqD9RrKM

Thanks for that, hadn't seen it.

kyle secor is dreamy

i saw kyle secor in something else recently, cant recall

his character in homicide becomes really really interesting as the seasons go on

oh yeah season 2 is great btw ... if you get halfway through you'll want to watch the end.

S2 isn't perfect but it must count as one of the most ambitious seasons of TV ever.

wow this ep is where s3 really takes a hit huh

vmars getting all 'noid about her prof is ugh

piz is ... literally not a character

S2 isn't perfect but it must count as one of the most ambitious seasons of TV ever.

― Simon H., Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

OTM

S2 broadens the Neptune world significantly, building on what I said was such a strength in a rather complicated way. There are some bad individual episodes (that jury duty one is justly reviled), but I ultimately admire that season for its ambition, even if it kind of blows it at the very end.

The ending of S2 was so Scooby Doo and ott that it just about ruined the season for me.

yeah, "kind of blows it" is too charitable. Compare that rooftop scene with the final confrontation in S1 and it's like, wth happened writers?

Frankly, I loved it. It was so over the top and crazy, and it almost fit the weird escalation that started off the season with the bus killing all those kids. To me, season 2 was not quite up to the level of season 1, but still great.

haha i love the ending. im glad its super ott

imo, its better as 'totally wtf unpredictable' than 'oh so it was the janitor' the way it had potential to be (that would have been the scooby doo ending iirc)

they do leave some loose ends in the season, that im p sure they had trouble resolving

Yeah I like the S2 ending, save for the distractingly crappy low-budget f/x.

i actually think the veronica-wigs-out subplot in s3 is kinda ... right. i mean as far as her being super-suspicious of logan & everything, it just makes more logical sense than '& they lived happily ever after.'

i do hope they give logan some irreverence back tho hes kind of turned into duncan :-/

for some reason, it took me half of S1 before i could consistently recognize duncan when he came on-screen. he just kind of faded into the sea of other douchey-looking brown-haired guys at the school. during one episode i was like "oh you know what, duncan wears argyle a lot, i'll bet i can remember him that way," but it turned out to be same episode where ducan lends logan one of his argyle sweaters and SEXY MIXUPS occur.

that guys is super forgettable in every way, yeah

i think rob thomas had big plans for duncan as a character but the dude who played him just couldn't get it done, acting-wise

otoh, Duncan's final act is one thing I do really love about the S3 finale, not that that required any acting feats.

I remember reading Rob Thomas based Kyle Bradway on the dude who played Duncan.

ahahahaha amazing!

Miss this show...

i always thought it was weird that the chick who played gia in S2 is in like, everything, all the time now. she was a p great character tho

S3 kinda worth it 4 the sweat scavenger hunt episode

veronica: "your fly is open"
dick: "I know. party ritual."

<3 dick

n/h

Our one dvd of season one ist kaput. Major bummer

got hooked on this when i gave it a second try, sped through s1.

what are your favorite logan zings?

Trina: Will you just hear me out, please? My boyfriend Dylan spotted me some cash a few months ago, and now he's bugging me about it. I — I can't get him off my back.
Logan: Did you try standing up?

Mr. Daniels: You know, the glow of your father's wealth and celebrity may be enough to sustain you through high school, Mr. Echolls, but do you know what it will get you in the real world?
Logan: Please say "high school English teacher." Please say "high school English teacher."

haha he's such a punk i <3 him

sad i can't find the "so you got a trophy for a rim job?" scene on youtube :(

what's the song at the end of s2e7?

It's "Run" by Air. Off Talkie Walkie.

So I watched this whole series in a little over a month.

Despite the fact that the show just sort of sputters out at the end, due to cancellation, I think I might have liked S3 a little better than S2. I admire the ambitiousness of S2, but there were SO many threads going at once and whole episodes in the middle that just seemed to drag. I liked the lighter touch of S3. Still, best stretch of episodes in the series is definitely the back third of S1; I don't think many people disagree with that.

Random peeves I couldn't get out of my head:

1. Who is paying for the suite at the Neptune Grand? At first it's the Kanes, but when Duncan moves out, are they still paying for Logan to live there by himself? At the end of S3, Dick Casablancas Sr. suggests that *he* is paying for it -- but is he paying for just Dick Jr., or Logan too?

2. After she was raped and her head was shaved, Parker wore an unflattering wig for one episode. Next episode, her hair had miraculously grown back to shoulder-length, despite the fact that the other rape victims still sported silly bald caps. (I thought maybe it was just a more realistic wig, but no.)

Also, skimmed through this thread last night, and this...

In any other actress's hands Veronica Mars would probably be completely insufferable! She's, umm, particularly good at being punchably smug / clever / quippy in a way that does not inspire punching impulses -- like, quite the opposite.
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, February 1, 2007 12:43 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

...is totally OTM. She's a really great actress.

<3 kristen

so having heard about this show for years i finally start to watch and plow thru season one in one week on netflix. very good, great entertainment. love the dad. maybe it was just bad luck and the timeslot but it does seem weird it wasn't a bigger hit. part of me wonders if it would've done well on a bigger network and part of me wonders if it wouldn't have been canceled midway thru the first season (nevermind lasted three seasons) if it hadn't of been on the cw.

Probably would have lasted longer on something like ABC Family channel that is geared towards younger people. Greek has been on 4 seasons now and that is pretty bad.

The subject matter probably wouldn't fly on ABC Family, though I admittedly don't watch that channel very much.

finished s2 recently. not as good as s1 for sure, but still pretty great. loved guttenberg!

the more i think abt it, it's kind of odd how most of the fathers in the series (keith aside) are kinda bad guys? daddy echolls, pedo mayor, wallace's dad (shady past least), Meg's dad, mr. casablancas.. idk, just a stray thought.

i think a major theme of the show is that the adult world does not have kids' interests at heart and is often actively harmful/abusive/neglectful of kids.

iirc rob thomas has a background in YA fiction (and maybe teaching, too) that might account for his POV.