I just dug out my Veronica Mars dvd set and Episode 5 is probably the worst episode of the season (well maybe the Paris Hilton one earlier is worse). The thing is from around episode 11 the series hits a really great roll all the way to the end. Now it may be the show just isn't to your taste, but it might be worth hanging on a wee bit longer to see if that second half of the season saves it for you.
― treefell, Monday, 2 August 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I think I'll stick with it a bit longer, because it's harmless/mindless enough, and def. sharp enough for me to suspect it can do better. With Troy out of the way, I hope it's onward and upward! Or at least reaches cruising altitude.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 August 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link
logan is a great character arc iirc
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, August 2, 2010 3:25 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
otm. logan is awes
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link
hey, its a dude who is actually self aware & genuinely funny/cynical
also is amanda seyfried the dead sister? imo shes the hottest
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link
duncan is way more the kind of dude i would sorta roll my eyes at when girls go gaga for him ... hes pretty cardboard as a personality, a centered person but not much for entertaining conversation. also hella mopey (w good reason obv im just sayin)
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link
the lawyer is def a great character too. trying to think of characters i just dont like & kinda struggling
dick is hilarious also
whoa dude from freaks & geeks is in season 3
aside from kevin smith the cameos in this show are pretty great
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link
why so many scientologists in this prog?
― conrad, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link
why so many in hollywood?
the new theme song does suck
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 02:29 (thirteen years ago) link
who are the scientologists?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link
logan piz dick probably others
― conrad, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe not actually http://arabian.dreamwidth.org/70712.html?thread=476728
― conrad, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
piz is so boring i cant take it
lol @ the constant lebowski references btw
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually this show kind of is mediocre.
― Daleks in NYC (Leee), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, no
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh piz i couldn't finish the third season
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I couldn't do Season 3.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Piz is too lame to be a dick.
― ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I just met my downstairs neighbor for the first time this morning and he could have walked off a Veronica Mars 09er casting call. He sounds like an 09er and even has kind of an 09er name (no offense to the two prominent ILX posters with the same name).
― no gut busting joke can change history (Jenny), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
In fact, I will probably just refer to him as Dick Casablancas going forward.
― no gut busting joke can change history (Jenny), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
all the white boy 09ers remind me so much of every single boy i went to high school with it's crazy
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
3 is a total drag, though I vaguely recall liking the Paul Rudd ep and the final one. Bizarre that they pulled the old "let's send them all to the same college" TV move and then you hardly see Wallace and Mac (iirc) once they get there. Also, they make Veronica genuinely unpleasant, judgmental, and rash.
― elephant rob, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i miss wallace. i feel like percy daggs is never going to be cast in anything ever again.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah. I would get super depressed whenever that Hot Pockets or whatever commercial he was in would come on.
― elephant rob, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I was being pretty glib about most TV characters being hateable, and that doesn't apply to V Mars for me (I even like Logan!) but there are definitely shows I enjoy where I don't like any of the characters but for some reason I can't remember what they are right now.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, it's pretty rough. I guess it was silly to keep watching and expect it to get better. I did like the last episode, though.
― ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
So ep. 6 was OK, but now (scanning these recent posts) I'm a bit worried. Do I watch til the end of season one then cut and run? Season 2? Half of season 2?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Watch all of Season 2 or none of it. Watching half of it is sort of pointless.
― no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
jesus, all of it is worth watching!
can't believe the dad of the deceased girl - can you tell i'm crap with names - is that dude from homicide!!!!
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it is! funny. i don't think i've seen him in anything else.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Kyle Secor was in an episode of The Closer last night! He gets around
― Nhex, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda sad they didn't get to do fbi season 4 with walton gogginshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG_dqD9RrKM
― cozen, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks for that, hadn't seen it.
― Not the real Village People, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link
kyle secor is dreamy
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i saw kyle secor in something else recently, cant recall
his character in homicide becomes really really interesting as the seasons go on
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link
oh yeah season 2 is great btw ... if you get halfway through you'll want to watch the end.
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link
S2 isn't perfect but it must count as one of the most ambitious seasons of TV ever.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 4 August 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link
wow this ep is where s3 really takes a hit huh
vmars getting all 'noid about her prof is ugh
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link
piz is ... literally not a character
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link
― Simon H., Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
OTM
S2 broadens the Neptune world significantly, building on what I said was such a strength in a rather complicated way. There are some bad individual episodes (that jury duty one is justly reviled), but I ultimately admire that season for its ambition, even if it kind of blows it at the very end.
― elephant rob, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
The ending of S2 was so Scooby Doo and ott that it just about ruined the season for me.
― ô_o (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, "kind of blows it" is too charitable. Compare that rooftop scene with the final confrontation in S1 and it's like, wth happened writers?
― elephant rob, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Frankly, I loved it. It was so over the top and crazy, and it almost fit the weird escalation that started off the season with the bus killing all those kids. To me, season 2 was not quite up to the level of season 1, but still great.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link
haha i love the ending. im glad its super ott
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
imo, its better as 'totally wtf unpredictable' than 'oh so it was the janitor' the way it had potential to be (that would have been the scooby doo ending iirc)
they do leave some loose ends in the season, that im p sure they had trouble resolving
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I like the S2 ending, save for the distractingly crappy low-budget f/x.
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 August 2010 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i actually think the veronica-wigs-out subplot in s3 is kinda ... right. i mean as far as her being super-suspicious of logan & everything, it just makes more logical sense than '& they lived happily ever after.'
i do hope they give logan some irreverence back tho hes kind of turned into duncan :-/
― blap...tremendo (deej), Thursday, 5 August 2010 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link
for some reason, it took me half of S1 before i could consistently recognize duncan when he came on-screen. he just kind of faded into the sea of other douchey-looking brown-haired guys at the school. during one episode i was like "oh you know what, duncan wears argyle a lot, i'll bet i can remember him that way," but it turned out to be same episode where ducan lends logan one of his argyle sweaters and SEXY MIXUPS occur.
― it sucks and you all love something that sucks (reddening), Thursday, 5 August 2010 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link
that guys is super forgettable in every way, yeah
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 August 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i think rob thomas had big plans for duncan as a character but the dude who played him just couldn't get it done, acting-wise
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 August 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link