Veronica Mars

nice.

x-post Since Veronica can hold her own, I figured the only reason the supporting cast was composed almost entirely of rich assholes was to set the stage for their potential redemption. BTW, had a great theory as to what's going on (being totally blind to future plot turns), but deep down I'm (preemptively) bummed that there's no way the show will go where I wished it went. Eh, it's light. I'll give it a few more eps.

i feel like if you're 5 eps in and hate everyone and aren't liking it, u should cut yr losses

Agreed. VM never ramped up in terms of quality the way Buffy did. I think if you don't like it after the first 5 episodes you're probably never going to like it.

it's funny that I like this show but hate logan tons and duncan and piz and wallace sometimes and mac sometimes and the rest. I like veronica and keith

tbh most tv show characters, even on tv shows I love, are pretty hateable

mr rogers for example

Has there ever been a fish out of water show with a super rich person forced to live with poor people?

Green Acres

I think it's the actors I hate rather than the characters which are just a bit rubbish

i like wallace most of the time. and i like weevil.

I like the mushmouthed deputy, the defense lawyer, and Ken Marino as the rival p.i. (though I can't remember how much he's in season 1).

I like just about all of the characters on this show? I think it must take a lot for me to hate a character.

yeah they are all quite good

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Oh, I like all the teenagers too but pretty much all the adult secondary characters are great iirc and that's a real strength of the show compared to other "teen dramas." OTOH, I'll spend time watching people on TV who I would actively avoid irl (which is kind of no duh, but I mean I still can't believe I enjoy a show about football players in Texas) and maybe other people aren't like that.

I'd say watch past the first 5. That Troy subplot seems like an out and out fuckup by the writers' compared to the rest of the season which is really well-balanced between the overarching plot and the individual eps.

the Troy thing sets up the show's cynical tone so well!

A lot of the 09ers seem kind of cardboard, tbh. Logan and Duncan seem to be getting a bit more interesting (I've watched 12 episodes), but a lot of the secondary characters are just anonymous chiseled dudes.

show has had some good homicide cameos so far, which I appreciate. Bayliss! Melissa Leo -- as a transgendered woman! i hope there are more.

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I moved to a new high school after sophomore year, so "anonymous chiseled dudes" actually rings true with my experience.

I think that's it tylerw. I was always sad they didn't have a scene together.

i also appreciate that, despite its kinda artificial feel, a lot of the show seems to be filmed on location in the San Diego area, and kind of gets the vibe of the place right.

As kind of an extension of what I saying about the adult characters, I think one are where VM excels over Buffy is the setting. Neptune and its high school feel much more real to me than Sunnydale. Obv neither show is aiming for naturalism, and I don't really care about this idea wrt to Buffy, but I think it's one of the pleasures of VM.

i've also watched 5 eps of this and kinda lost interest. not sure why exactly because there's a lot i like about it. a friend told me the overarching plot gets darker and more interesting within the next few eps, so i'm gonna try again.

the trans mom ep made me cry and is by far my favorite so far ;_;

At least Veronica Mars didn't have an awesome pool hall/bar/concert venue (with national touring acts!)... that caters to one high school and only serves juice/soda.

Did you not get to the episode where Spoon plays yet.

I remember almost no details about VM (except for how much I hated the 12 Angry Men/Veronicas episode)

v mars doesn't ramp up like buffy but it starts out stronger (i love buffy a lot more overall but the first season of vmars is better than the first season of buffy). also, vmars starts moving really fast about six episodes from the end of the season and then it's impossible to stop watching. i think i watched the last six episodes in a night the first time i watched the first season through.

person who finds the characters unlikeable, how can you dislike Cliff??!?

Logan is a great character and i love him but boys seem to have something against him ime

we're jealous duh.

totally! he's the classic "why do girls only like jerks?" model

logan is a great character arc iirc

logan 100% rubbish

I just dug out my Veronica Mars dvd set and Episode 5 is probably the worst episode of the season (well maybe the Paris Hilton one earlier is worse). The thing is from around episode 11 the series hits a really great roll all the way to the end. Now it may be the show just isn't to your taste, but it might be worth hanging on a wee bit longer to see if that second half of the season saves it for you.

Yeah, I think I'll stick with it a bit longer, because it's harmless/mindless enough, and def. sharp enough for me to suspect it can do better. With Troy out of the way, I hope it's onward and upward! Or at least reaches cruising altitude.

logan is a great character arc iirc

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otm. logan is awes

hey, its a dude who is actually self aware & genuinely funny/cynical

also is amanda seyfried the dead sister? imo shes the hottest

duncan is way more the kind of dude i would sorta roll my eyes at when girls go gaga for him ... hes pretty cardboard as a personality, a centered person but not much for entertaining conversation. also hella mopey (w good reason obv im just sayin)

the lawyer is def a great character too. trying to think of characters i just dont like & kinda struggling

dick is hilarious also

whoa dude from freaks & geeks is in season 3

aside from kevin smith the cameos in this show are pretty great

why so many scientologists in this prog?

why so many in hollywood?

the new theme song does suck

who are the scientologists?

logan piz dick probably others

maybe not actually http://arabian.dreamwidth.org/70712.html?thread=476728

piz is so boring i cant take it

lol @ the constant lebowski references btw

Actually this show kind of is mediocre.

yeah, no

ugh piz i couldn't finish the third season

Yeah, I couldn't do Season 3.

Piz is too lame to be a dick.

I just met my downstairs neighbor for the first time this morning and he could have walked off a Veronica Mars 09er casting call. He sounds like an 09er and even has kind of an 09er name (no offense to the two prominent ILX posters with the same name).

In fact, I will probably just refer to him as Dick Casablancas going forward.