What's the best way to discourage people from going to see Danny Boyle's Sunshine?

I have just figured out what was one of my favourite things about it - and it's only something that popped up during the directors commentary.

There's no tacked-on romance! I really liked that! I was really terrified that there was going to be something between Capa and Rose Byrne's character, and was really relieved when there wasn't.

It was really really refreshing to have the female characters there to be scientists and pilots and suchlike and just DO THEIR JOBS rather than just function as cheap love interest/sex objects.

i liked this! sort of a missed opportunity with regard to the premise...but maybe every movie doesn't have to be a masterpiece.

this is prob in my top films of the decade list. fuck tha haterz.

I liked the extremes of heat and cold....the sense of how small and fragile the little sliver of possibility is that allows us to exist, the infinite forces beyond our understanding on either side...making it tangible to us in fire and ice.

the zombie killer bit was just sort of a let down....im not sure how it works in to those themes, or why they would interrupt those meditations for that reason. it felt a little like pandering. why not just jump off into the abstract and mystical like 2001?

often im willing to give such major plot points the benefit of the doubt...they obviously planned this and it's not as slapdash as it seems...but im having a hard time with this one...maybe because i wanted it to be a slightly different movie.

I dunno, I might have felt as fobbed off with a pseudo-mystical 2001 type ending. That shit's hard to pull off.

definitely...

The real problem with Sunshine is that its flawed genius, which is worse than no genius at all.

Still best science fiction of the decade

Loved the dread of the first 2/3, abhorred the zombie killer part - but I don't know where they should have gone after the first 2/3. Not slasher, but not 2001 either.

the premise is stupid

All I have to say is-PINBACKER MOTHERFUCKERS.

The real problem with Sunshine is that its flawed genius, which is worse than no genius at all.

Still best science fiction of the decade

― Hamildan, Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:36 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol what the hell

Just watched this. Thought it was pretty good and Danny Boyle managed to (just about) avoid his usual temptation of having a half-naked white man running around like a lunatic for the last third. The serial killer bit was a bit stoopid, but whatya gonna do? And this...:

The real problem with Sunshine is that its flawed genius, which is worse than no genius at all.

― Hamildan, Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:36 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink"

...is completely wrong. Flawed masterpieces are the only ones worth discussing when it comes down to it.

this loses a lot when they bring on the slasher aspect but before that this is AWESOME

doesn't this movie literally end with a "half-naked white man running around like a lunatic"?

Think he might be completely naked. Actually isn't half his skin burnt off, which is ultra douple-plus naked?

Just remembered I bought the dvd but haven't watched it yet, i'll give it a go tonight.

Well a half-burnt blur running about like a lunatic. Hence the qualifier "just about".

Watched it again. Still fucking intense. Still blown away by Kaneda's death scene. Choked up at quite a few other scenes too, or maybe I was just thinkin' 'bout the wondrous ilx pledge drive.

It's a movie of extremes. Light and dark, noise and silence, madness and sanity, logic and emotion. Totally should've been nominated for a technical oscar.

Burned flesh aside, it was visually very beautiful. And Kaneda's death scene was really well done.

£4 in whsmith this morning (there was a bunch of stuff around that price, serenity for £2 say but i picked this). am hoping i'm more of a ledge than an alba.

have you reached a conclusion?

i watched it at the weekend. bit disappointed that it was in 2.35:1 ie a tiny strip in the middle of my 25" 4x3 tv but i cranked up the surround sound to compensate.

reminded me a lot of 42 episode of dr who. crossed with event horizon.

the glitchy monster effects were nice but are usually there to distract from the bad monster make-up. and served to make the end confusing. (oh, and the single-frame images of the original crew just served to break the 4th wall)

music good. end title music not so good.

my big problem, though, was them calling the ship 'Icarus'.

oh, and alternate ending on the dvd = v disappointing. was exactly the same ending without the snow.

ha, i didn't even know that was there. i'm from the 'life is too short for dvd extras' school.

oh, and Benedict Wong will always be Errol from 15 Storeys High to me.

> i'm from the 'life is too short for dvd extras' school.

is a minute and a half, tops. but don't bother.

bit off topic, but Serenity for two quid is a vastly better deal then Sunshine for four, what with Serenity being fucking ace an' all.

just 6 months till i can start a 'skiffy films of the 2000s' poll.

I watched this again last night (must be my 4th or 5th time) and I still love it.

For the first time I found myself not only unperturbed by the turn it takes at the end, but actually seeing it as a worthwhile and important part of the movie - the veering from being totally realistic (within its sci-fi construct) into a subtle mysticism and fantasy gives it an ambiguity amd scope at the finish that it wouldn't have otherwise.

*ambiguity AND scope...

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This movie has problems, but it has stuck with me more than most movies.

Rewatched this for the first time since seeing it in a theater (which I see I documented in this very thread 18 years ago). It was more intense than I remembered, effectively so. The psycho turn still felt a bit forced, they could have done any number of more interesting things to rev up the tension at the end. But the things I remembered most about it — the enveloping sense of isolation and the overwhelming and terrifying presence of the sun — still held up.

Also reminded me that Oppenheimer wasn’t Cillian Murphy’s first movie as a mega-bomb scientist.