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― BIG HOOS' macaroni is off the motherfucking chain (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:29 (seventeen years ago)
Please leave the thread. I want to continue to make fun of Paglia's attempts to get in Palin's pants and you're killing my fun. XP
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:30 (seventeen years ago)
Vision, I know you think you're dodging the issues really deftly there, but we just want you to actually say something please.
― I know, right?, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:30 (seventeen years ago)
Mordy, as for yout tutor/college, one of Paglia's best advices: "let the library be your teacher" .
― Vision, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:30 (seventeen years ago)
please list all the books you've read o wise one
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:31 (seventeen years ago)
you just haven't read enough on the subject.
srsly why do you say shit like this? do you know? why would you assume it's true? it's a nasty habit, i hope you don't do it in real life or you for sure come off like a total cock. word to the wise.
― goole, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:32 (seventeen years ago)
Like, actually make a point or an argument at some point rather than referring back to some notion of precedence, where you assume a precedence of knowledge that you've never once displayed here.
― I know, right?, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:32 (seventeen years ago)
Paglia is much better, but Adorno (the essays on music and Minima Moralia at least) is an engaging read, just do it selectively.
Vision: takin' it to the next level
― Passenger 57 (rogermexico.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:33 (seventeen years ago)
He doesn't even know the right Adorno to read :( It's sad.
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:34 (seventeen years ago)
Of course, it's predictable that he would pick the Adorno's book that has the questionable homophobic slurs in it.
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:35 (seventeen years ago)
Vision knows what we've read, what classes we've take, when we're sleeping, when we're awake
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:35 (seventeen years ago)
If we've been bad or good?
― I know, right?, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:35 (seventeen years ago)
He knows the bias of a syllabus from 2000000000 yards!
― BIG HOOS' macaroni is off the motherfucking chain (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:36 (seventeen years ago)
I propose that Vision has never actually read Sexual Personae.
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:37 (seventeen years ago)
Let the library be your teacher is a good line though.
But what about the bias of the library, huh?
― I know, right?, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:37 (seventeen years ago)
i know right, I have written like 10 pages of stuff on this thread (which has just now reached that point where people, out of arguments, resort to "you suck", "shut up" etc).
goole, because some things people say betray a level of ignorance which they try to mask or to disingenuously attribute to others. Life is hard in the world of ideas, you must have thick skin. An example: in the book w/the Nabokov/Edmund Wilson correspondence, Nabokov mentions a certain college friend or something like that whose first dissertation started with the following phrase:
"democracy is a latin word"
That statement alone destroyed this guy's reputation forever. And, it must be said, rightly so.
― Vision, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:38 (seventeen years ago)
because some things people say betray a level of ignorance which they try to mask or to disingenuously attribute to others.
^^ you don't say
― goole, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:38 (seventeen years ago)
Vision, you've never actually made an argument. Not once. And I challenge you to produce a quote that says otherwise.
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:38 (seventeen years ago)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4147XH95YSL._SL500_AA240_.jpg
― Passenger 57 (rogermexico.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:39 (seventeen years ago)
Vision, NO YOU HAVEN"T, in fact you're doing what I tried to call you on as a way of avoiding actually saying something AGAIN.
― I know, right?, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:39 (seventeen years ago)
NOBODY IS FOOLED
There's been a couple of really bad one sentence book reviews....
― I know, right?, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:40 (seventeen years ago)
Don't get upset, IK,R? We're all following along. We know he hasn't made a single argument. Those 10 pages he's written are ten pages of fluff.
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:41 (seventeen years ago)
Vision don't let these guys bully you into saying something of substance
― Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:41 (seventeen years ago)
But maybe he doesn't know what an argument is. I'll help - madlibs style:
Despite saying some things you all disagree with about Sarah Palin, Paglia is actually making an interesting point. This is because her argument that {.....} which you may not have considered because of {.......} shows Palin in a new light. While I admit that textually, Palin can appear to be stupid, if you consider {.......} argument of Paglia's, then that becomes reversed.
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:43 (seventeen years ago)
Just fill in the {.....} and you'll be well on your way to making an argument.
PS vision I'm really really curious what in Derrida's work you find fake or fraudulent.
― Passenger 57 (rogermexico.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:43 (seventeen years ago)
all the french
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:44 (seventeen years ago)
those french think they're so smart, they have a different word for everything
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:45 (seventeen years ago)
They aren't called French Fries. They are called American fries.
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:45 (seventeen years ago)
Freedom fries.
Paglia fries.
Mordy, that's ironic, since the essays are more or less self-standing, and Minima Moralia is the entry level Adorno that sums up his analytical slants and his ideas on art and society etc. Adorno was (as german authors usually are) blunt in the way he expressed himself. You can't fully read him retroactively or through a PC lens.
i know right/Mordy, what I say is written, and it seems more than enough to sum up what I think about Paglia. Now, as I said the other day, if you want remedial classes, you should at least know the basics.
Passenger, in the library, you select the bibliography. If you teacher says "nah, don't read Fraser", you can go there, read him and judge for yourself.
max, it's ok, "i know right" is actually my sockpuppet, and I suspect Mordy is actually prof.Paglia under an alias.
― Vision, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:46 (seventeen years ago)
She is horribly boring. Her teenage insistence on taking the contrary point to get a rise out of her audience was mildly entertaining when her schtick was new. It's quite not-new now, and her younger self might have known as much, but her older self knows which side the bread's buttered on, so she keeps hauling recycled mothball-stinking crap like "I like Sarah Palin! You people just don't understand!" out and collecting her 3k or so per piece. I do not doubt she's a fine professor; she has that tenacity of focus that can make a semester really adventurous. But continuing to read her thought, which does not grow or find new directions, is like taking the same course every semester for over a decade after you've graduated.
― J0hn D., Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:47 (seventeen years ago)
It's true, I am a sockpuppet.
― I know, right?, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:47 (seventeen years ago)
Is this the "writing" you're talking about?
Now, some arguments:-Paglia has a theory of culture (you know, Apollonyan androgynes, Dionysian undercurrents, forces of nature and sexuality shaping culture, gender roles in history, crime, popular culture etc etc); what are you thoughts on it?-Paglia is very incisive in her statements (hence "verve"); several of her most famous phrases have entered the mainstream debate; what do you have to say about them?-she also has a very original theory of poetry, going from Sappho to Joni Mitchell and again based on the expression of sexual impulse, among other things; do you think she got it wrong? How?
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:48 (seventeen years ago)
hahah man I hate it when teachers tell me NOT to read things wtf
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:48 (seventeen years ago)
seriously cannot think of a single instance of a professor/teacher saying that to me
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:49 (seventeen years ago)
vision canyou text me again I lost your number...
― Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:51 (seventeen years ago)
So it was quiet, quiet, up there in the mountains. It wasn't quiet for long, because when one Jew comes along and meets another, then it's goodbye silence, even in the mountains. Because the Jew and Nature, that's two very different things, as always, even today, even here.
My favorite Celan quote.
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:52 (seventeen years ago)
i must not be jewish
― gabbneb, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:54 (seventeen years ago)
So, I'm going to bed. Someone email me when Vision makes an argument.
― I know, right?, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:55 (seventeen years ago)
vision text me on my personal cell not my work cell k
― Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:55 (seventeen years ago)
It took you that quote to figure that out?
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:56 (seventeen years ago)
Can I just take this moment to share how much pleasure I get from Blanchot?
― Passenger 57 (rogermexico.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:56 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.coconutstudio.com/Fishing%20Methods%203%20-%20The%20Payaw%20Men_files/Bangsi_troll_bait.jpg
― omar little, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:57 (seventeen years ago)
funny how both my mom and dad are
― gabbneb, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:57 (seventeen years ago)
so how many people on this thread should be suggest banned? 2 or 3?
gabbneb, why don't you go back to one of your politics threads?
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:58 (seventeen years ago)
Wait, what just happened?
― I know, right?, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:58 (seventeen years ago)