and i'd like to thank the makers of the chambers iphone app for helping me find these ridic words
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)
Lately indebted basically other way of saying overdue, no?
― ailsa, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)
I think it's just an &lit: 'lately indebted' = late on your debts = arrears
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:29 (fifteen years ago)
that was xp
I knew bead = sight on gun, but didn't click.
yeah arrears just late on debt
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:31 (fifteen years ago)
'wearer of a necklace' not really sure bout this part though
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)
necklaces have beads. sometimes. this is the weakest thing yet imo.
― ledge, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
yeah the rest of that batch are pretty solid clues tho
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)
How does the 'council' one work?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:45 (fifteen years ago)
you pay rates based on the value of your house as determined by the council, right?
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)
so if they 'don't appreciate' etc- underrated
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:47 (fifteen years ago)
Ah, right, right. Good work everyone!
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:47 (fifteen years ago)
well, it is actually, but thanks
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
I'll try and paste the last batch of these sometime next week.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
V works in council housing section fyi V
dawn broke in not so poor a way as this (9)
i have the answer, can post in rot-13, but for the life of me the dawn broke part is as well to be a random addition.
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)
aye, rot-13 it because I can't figure it, but might be able to figure it back?
― ailsa, Monday, 9 August 2010 22:09 (fifteen years ago)
i will be impressed
comin up
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 22:16 (fifteen years ago)
qrfgvghgr
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)
OK, nothing leaping out at me. I can see the use of "broke", I can see "not so poor as way as this", but can't see how they would fit together at all?
Would put good money on ledge cracking it though.
― ailsa, Monday, 9 August 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)
dawn, i mean wtf?
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)
Just stared at this for a whole episode of family guy. I got nuthin.
― ledge, Monday, 9 August 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)
as long as it's not just me and my bro tbh
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, nothing here, and I tried it just after watching Sherlock, which should have given me the deductive skills to get it. Keep thinking the 'dawn' has to be an allusion of some kind.
o crap, wait, I sort of see - is it misdirecting then flagging up its own misdirection? ie dawn is *just* there to mislead on the sense of 'broke' (which serves as the definition, despite being mid-clue), then telling you 'the answer ≈ broke, but in another sense to do with poverty'.
That's an unacceptable clue by UK crossword standards imo.
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 09:53 (fifteen years ago)
that reading would be as strange for crosaire as it would anywhere else though.
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:13 (fifteen years ago)
re: mid clue definitions though, tis an interesting point. it is possible to construct legitimate clues that way, and some barred-grid setters use them. you just have to try and stick the def inbetween two bits of wordplay (e.g. anag fodder, anag indicator), like so:
hero's a nag, when upset (5)
― ledge, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:24 (fifteen years ago)
well that's legit, but it's a hell of a jump from that (also 'a nag' deliberate or not?) to throwing in a random word with a sketchy indication to ignore it.
i don't think it's a runner in this instance, based on 15 odd years with these particular crosswords.
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:26 (fifteen years ago)
but why dawn? if it's just there as misdirection, then that's not on.
xpost
― ailsa, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:27 (fifteen years ago)
dawn broke in not so poor a way as this
destitute
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)
i mean you'd be looking for 'dawn broke' as the puzzle piece to go along with the 'poor state' straight definition, it's as simple as that. just not.
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:31 (fifteen years ago)
agree that dawn-as-misdirection is an obscenity, but I just can't see any other way to account for it. But I'm not really convinced myself, & wld be happier if we found a poem by Thomas Moore about the Undestitute Sunrise or something.
& re mid-clue defs, yes that doesn't feel too bad if it's fairly easy & used in moderation, but I'm not used to it & frankly fear a world where defs can be anywhere and letter jumbles are separated from anagram indicators.
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:58 (fifteen years ago)
Jagger and Johnson get Ailsa in a state (9)
― au secours madison (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)
louisiana
― Not the real Village People, Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)
something i hastily constructed for a birthday card for my dad. not tricky, just a bit of fun.
1___21|_|_|_| |_|X|_|3|_|_|_|
Across1 Hill start leads to hesitation and sound of motor spinning (3)3 Irishman is apt to be confused (3)
Down1 It's hard work to jump (3)2 Join up in home town (3)
― ledge, Friday, 10 September 2010 10:25 (fifteen years ago)
ack, should be 'joined up'
― ledge, Friday, 10 September 2010 10:26 (fifteen years ago)
humoepat
― koogs, Friday, 10 September 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)
otm
― ledge, Friday, 10 September 2010 11:28 (fifteen years ago)
no shortage at the baker's ball (9)
soft one to get it rollin again
― illiterate mods are killing ilx (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 September 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
ho ho
― ledge, Thursday, 16 September 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17216/17216-h/images/020-04.png
altho they look more like potatoes imo
― ledge, Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)
yeah well get to it
― illiterate mods are killing ilx (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)
Public Relations acquire copy of The Times, say (5)
― ledge, Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
Paper?
― pissky in the jar (onimo), Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_222t5surOxk/R6olVKh6M3I/AAAAAAAAAoE/HM21K7BCHuw/s400/hooray.gif
― ledge, Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)
Orthodox type to convert natives all over the place, despite loss of holy book (12)
― ledge, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)
aboriginals?
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)
with a random letter at the end, like
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)
most of all you're letting yourself down
― ledge, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)
conservatives
― portrait of velleity (woof), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)
without the s