Wow!
Never mind get these right, I don't think I could ever even independently deduce half of these from the solutions.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)
Can someone explain #3?
but fa doesn't appear in answer? (am i being dumb here?)
i read the four central letters of the answer as the fish
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)
i think no 3 is almost not cryptic, unless i'm missing another *level* mayne
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)
tinned fish = type of fish inside chemical symbol for tin (sn)
spain one quite funny.
shout in the sense of 'it's your shout.'
― koogs, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)
xposts
― koogs, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)
oh FA why didn't you say!
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)
i'm meh on the shout aspect tbh
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)
"it's your treat"?
not cryptic clues always throw me, are they actually allowed?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)
xps
Sorry, maybe sticking in rot13 is confusing things, fa=sn, so the fish is 'in' tin.
#5 horseplay = n ent + in progress = ba
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)
xp it's a double definition, that's legit.
― ledge, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)
yes, when buying rounds in pubs. it's my shout - i'm buying these, these are my treat.
― koogs, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)
Spain - think of a student ___ week, the main surviving example of this usage - like that one more than the rest but then it's the only one I got
(xposts, oh well)
― rah rah rah wd smash the oiks (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)
Still hate #3.
#5 amazing work!
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)
dropping 6 at a time turns this thread into some kind of piranha word puzzle frenzy, i love it.
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)
Ok new lot coming!
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)
Fashionable dress-silk (7)Old watchman to hang fire (4)Exceptionally bright light at the front (4)Indeed name a hundred, already named! (9)A drop of water that mars one's view (8)Obliged to worry constantly about a wild horse (7)
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)
nynzbqrjnvgirelqrabhaprq (this is the now-obligatory one I get as soon as I type it)pngnenpgzhfgnat
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)
#1 is double definition
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)
As is #2
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)
pretty archaic first def tho.
― ledge, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)
i know, it says "old"
these ones i'll admit to struggling with- i've tried looking up types of silk but only getting a similar spelling to the answer for the first one.
rest of em? baffled
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)
don't get #3, #5 is nice - double def basically.
Yeah it's listener/azed level arcane vocab - last definition in Chambers.
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)
indeed = in 'deed'
― ledge, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)
i get the last one alright, i would not have seen the last three letters standalone before though?
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)
Is the idea that pngnenpg's are caused by drops of water?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)
nah, cataract = waterfall
― ledge, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)
i would not have seen the last three letters standalone before though?
not sure what you mean here?
drop of water is just a double def - word comes from the Greek and then the Latin for water flowing downwards, think it meant "waterfall" in English too before it became a somewhat less pleasant thing
xp again dammit
― rah rah rah wd smash the oiks (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)
must -ang?
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)
many xps
Chambers (again) has that spelling for the kind of silk.
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)
xp, ang = nag anag? (lol.) 'worry constantly' = nag, 'about' = anag.
― ledge, Friday, 30 July 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)
christ #3 is more ridic vocab double def, irel = signalling or illuminating flare
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)
So 1 and 2 are obscure vocabulary for 'silk' and 'watchman' respectively?
But what is 'hang fire' doing?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)
hadn't seen 'about' used to signify anagram before- it's always 're' in crosaire. fair enough
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)
xp hmmm. Indirect anagrams usually considered unfair.
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)
But it does seem to be the best explanation.
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)
true, but the rest of it was easy enough so.
about as anag indicator is pretty standard, (move the letters) about.
hang fire = wait!
pretty sure i wouldn't have got 1 2 or 3 meself.
― ledge, Friday, 30 July 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)
3 is kind of a crummy clue in that case - it's either completely impossible or literally the first thing you'll try if you've memorised chambers somehow.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)
Hang on - nag isn't a wild horse, so 'wild' must be the signifier? So what's 'about'?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
nag anag
Happy with "about" for anag, but surely the "wild horse" is being the whole-word definition?
I got the -stang as being "angst" about but then was stuck on "mu", and while it's used for various sciencey things I don't think any of them are "constant"s
am I barking up the wrong tree?
― rah rah rah wd smash the oiks (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
mustang is a wild horse, nag is ang 'about', must is the 'obliged'
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
OH RIGHT
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
Could maybe get 1, might need checked letters. The other two, not if it was a regular xword. Don't expect lunatic dictionary digging tests outside barred grids.
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, I somehow dropped the "obliged" in my mental wranglings. Still don't really get it. Maybe knowing where all the bits come from is missing the point. It certainly would be with today's Telegraph crossword, dunno the 80s.
― rah rah rah wd smash the oiks (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)
All done? Alright, one more batch then.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)
(Is the modern Telegraph considered terribly debased?)
Wait, must + nag(anag) doesn't cover the "worry constantly", unless that's an anagram signifier, but we already have 2 potential anagram signifiers.
If I'm being very thick let me know and I'll shut up
― rah rah rah wd smash the oiks (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 30 July 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)