A new 30 Rock thread because I can't find the old one

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Dr Spaceman is my favorite television character.

nickalicious, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

I love Dr. Spacemen, but at times he's kinda just like Dr. Nick.

dan selzer, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

"another Lemon zinger" = ok, someone needs to assemble a complete guide to all the low-lying puns in the writing for this show, because I would never have caught this

(I would like to take credit for having noticed "Lemon party" upthread, but I'm pretty sure someone pointed that out to me)

nabisco, Friday, 25 April 2008 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

i think that might have been my favorite episode of all time

OTM. My Facebook status is "... had dreams. He was going to live with the gorillas."

Sundar, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

wau

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

I've thought "Diabetes repair?" at least twenty times today.

polyphonic, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

A little too much plot in that episode, but so many great lines.

'You get one cry in life, good choice'

Ed, Friday, 25 April 2008 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

"If I'm such a bad dad, why are we all dancing?"

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Friday, 25 April 2008 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

"who's got two thumbs, speaks limited french, and hasn't cried once today"

banriquit, Friday, 25 April 2008 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

"THIS MOI!"

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Friday, 25 April 2008 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

"ill go see him every week - until spamalot closes...or he leaves the show" w/ the last said in will arnett's dramavoice was the biggest laugh for me

deeznuts, Friday, 25 April 2008 23:42 (eighteen years ago)

BTW, dunno if it's nationwide, but I just bought s1 @ Target for $20!!!!

David R., Saturday, 26 April 2008 00:57 (eighteen years ago)

drspacemanrunningthrough30rockadinfinitum.gif pls

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Saturday, 26 April 2008 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

the frenetic pace of the amadeus scenes was so well done. i was dying with slo-mo spa-che-man.

cutty, Saturday, 26 April 2008 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

executives are like "RUHRUHRUHRUH" and I'm more like "Laaaaaaaaaalaaaaaaaalaaaaa"

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Saturday, 26 April 2008 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

i think i asked this once before but what do the british think of this show? is it too american?

cutty, Saturday, 26 April 2008 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

it's our crown jewel of sitcomedy right now

cutty, Saturday, 26 April 2008 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

It's a niche thing here. The second season was bought, so I guess the first did OK. It probably is too American. Family Guy has at least as many references that are impenetrable to a British audience, but that did OK over here, so I don't think it's that. I think perhaps it's the style of humour and writing, both of which are very American.

caek, Saturday, 26 April 2008 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

it wasn't all A++ for me ("thoughtsicles" seemed like a very deliberate attempt at a new "mindgrapes") but yeah, pretty good.

-- Alex in Baltimore, Friday, April 25, 2008 7:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

yes because mindgrapes was such a national sensation!

s1ocki, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

I think perhaps it's the style of humour and writing, both of which are very American.

-- caek, Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:00 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

more on this? what other tv shows are very american? are you really saying 30 rock is more american than family guy??

and what, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

in england they would say Rock 30

s1ocki, Saturday, 26 April 2008 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe some of pop culture stuff is "too American"? For example, how big was the Michael Vick scandal over there?

C. Grisso/McCain, Saturday, 26 April 2008 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

i think me and caek are the only ilx britishes who follow it -- it plays on a minor channel here and no-one i know watches it. it did get good reviews, but so did 'seinfeld' and no-one saw that either. but since 'friends', 'frasier', and 'satc' went away there hasn't been a really big US sitcom hit here (unless you count 'ugly betty'). shit, even 'will and grace' got more play than '30 rock'.

'SNL' was never a thing here, so there's that. uh and iirc when i saw it shown on TV they'd cut some of tracy's scenes out, so i guess there's the racism thing too. i dunno what 'too american' means, british people love lots of american stuff.

banriquit, Saturday, 26 April 2008 22:36 (eighteen years ago)

s1ocki, considering that "mindgrapes" has probably been quoted more times in this thread than any other line, I think it's fair to say that's one of the better known lines among people who watch to show and employing a similiar phrase in a similiar way just seemed kinda weak to me.

Alex in Baltimore, Saturday, 26 April 2008 23:23 (eighteen years ago)

thoughtsicles was obviously a reference to mindgrapes and it was excellent at that

cutty, Sunday, 27 April 2008 00:17 (eighteen years ago)

There's no doubt that the references are too obscure, but there's more to it. I think 30 Rock's problem in the UK is that it's the American writer's room sit-com taken to its ultimate flawless conclusion. Not alternative comedy. Just perfect gags, lines and zingers. That's probably what I mean by too American. It's a particular type of sitcom that doesn't work here, as demonstrated by Seinfeld.

caek, Sunday, 27 April 2008 00:19 (eighteen years ago)

i mean every line in last night's episode was perfect. all killer no filler.

cutty, Sunday, 27 April 2008 00:19 (eighteen years ago)

it's amazing they can have any plot at all when the jokes are so rapid fire

cutty, Sunday, 27 April 2008 00:20 (eighteen years ago)

I'm from Scotland and I and lots of people in my circle of friends love 30 Rock but I remember once mentioning it in the office to a group of about ten people around my age (early 20s) and not one of them had heard of it and when I said it had Tina Fey and Tracy Morgan from Saturday Night Live in it they looked even more perplexed. Ah well, at least Alec Baldwin registered.

jim, Sunday, 27 April 2008 00:30 (eighteen years ago)

And although I love it I have no clue what channel they show it on so it must be a minor one. As Caek mentions though Seinfeld never took off here either, I remember having to stay up 'til 11 on a Tuesday to watch it when I was about ten years old.

jim, Sunday, 27 April 2008 00:32 (eighteen years ago)

And of course, 30 Rock isn't really "big" in the US to begin with.

I was really disappointed that there was nary a mention of giant lesbians when Tina was on Conan's show last night.

circles, Sunday, 27 April 2008 02:00 (eighteen years ago)

this ep made me love tv again or something

rrrobyn, Sunday, 27 April 2008 02:27 (eighteen years ago)

it's funny, I just caught up on a few recent episodes I missed this season on the NBC site, and out of the 4 or 5 I saw for the first this week, this past Thursday's was nowhere near my favorite, kinda surprised about all the love for it although it did have some great moments.

Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, 27 April 2008 02:52 (eighteen years ago)

when i saw it shown on TV they'd cut some of tracy's scenes out, so i guess there's the racism thing too

Wait, wait, what? That's a joke, right?

Also, never heard of the mindgrapes thing. I mean, whatever that is, it's not exactly "werewolf bar mitzvah" or "spa-cha-man" or even "shut it down" as a well-known 30 Rock joke.

Nhex, Sunday, 27 April 2008 04:25 (eighteen years ago)

What? The mindgrapes thing is one of the biggest 30 Rock jokes.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 April 2008 05:24 (eighteen years ago)

it was a good joke. let's all relax.

awesome ep.

s1ocki, Sunday, 27 April 2008 08:37 (eighteen years ago)

this episode was so good i might just watch it a second time tomorrow!!

god, the amadeus stuff was amazing.

tehresa, Sunday, 27 April 2008 08:49 (eighteen years ago)

this episode was so good i'm gonna take it behind the middle school and get it pregnant!

edb, Sunday, 27 April 2008 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

I'm a brit following this and I think this is the nearest thing America has produced to a father ted or a black books. American sit coms tend to be in fairly normal situations where the comedy comes from the mundane in the character's lives. 30 rock exists in a much less realistic world with much more exaggerated characters. All lot of jokes are going to pass Brits by, (I miss out on some of the entertainment references, although I got Michael VIck, but then I read ILX and the NY times). That said, the main reason this isn't really registering over here is that it is on channel 5 and doesn't stay fixed in the schedule AFAIK, I only found it because my girlfried let me know about it.

This episode was great, especially on a second watching where I wasn't quite so pissed off with the world. It is a shame if Alec Baldwin is leaving as he brings some of my biggest ROFLs.

Ed, Sunday, 27 April 2008 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

are they talking aobut him leaving again? i thought that was all over

akm, Sunday, 27 April 2008 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Some people on this thread are speculating after his plot in the last episode, but I don't think anyone has any new information.

caek, Sunday, 27 April 2008 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Your search - "alec baldwin leaving" - did not match any documents.

G00blar, Sunday, 27 April 2008 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

best episode in ages, btw.

G00blar, Sunday, 27 April 2008 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

he's not leaving folks.

s1ocki, Sunday, 27 April 2008 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

good

Ed, Sunday, 27 April 2008 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

He's gone. RIP Jack Donoughy.

HI DERE, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

evidence please

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

I blame Hillary

G00blar, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

that's not evidence. he also said he'd move to france if Bush was elected to a second term...

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:27 (eighteen years ago)


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