Which film critics do you trust (if any?)

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Fair enough.

Can music criticism RUIN music like film criticism can? Has anyone ever heard a song and thought "that drum break would be way more fun and exciting and surprising if Lester Bangs hadn't told me it was coming"?

― Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what happened to Cheshire, exactly. I admire him in retrospect. I don't know why they canned him, except perhaps he wasn't as "controversial" as White and not as cheap as Seitz.

― gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

No it can't. Good music criticism just makes you listen closer.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

Does Haskell still write for a mag?
I don't know, I was gonna ask that question myself.

Adam, you should NEVER read a review in any depth before seeing the movie. Just skim very briefly to see whether it's worth checking out. Well, I guess some writers don't give away too many plot points, but better to err on the safe side. Like Morbius said, read after seeing.

― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

I think Morbius is right about crystallization. I also read criticism because I genuinely like absorbing information. Plus it's nice when the phrasing and the sentence structure is pretty.

― Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

I also like all the festival roundups, especially when they're bitchy.

― Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

People with Blackberrys sound MEAN.

― Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

i think i started enjoying movies more when i stopped reading film critics.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:21 (twenty years ago)

white is otm about mission to mars & depalma in general

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea what White's opinion is about DePalma or Mission to Mars, but if he liked the latter he is far from OTM.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

Unsurprisingly he really liked it.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Did he review Crash?

― Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

THERE IS NONE MORE OTM

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

The thing with White is, I think he's wrong an awful lot, but (unlike, say, Kael) I rarely think he's wrong in any particularly interesting ways. Kael's overestimation of DePalma has never really convinced me, but I like reading her argument. White just tends to assert things, with cold disdain for anyone who doesn't see things his way.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

Awesome

― Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

http://www.villagevoice.com/specials/pazznjop/04/critic.php?criticid=4965

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

So Armond White is actually Miccio?

― Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

(ok, I'm willing to take his word on Crash, which looks terrible)

xpost

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

I like DePalma but Armond White is completely useless. And Mission to Mars is such a shit film (a couple of moments aside). Also, once he likes someone or something, they can do no wrong, ever. And if he hates someone or something, they can do no right. Unless the hated Denzel redeems himself by working with god among directors Jonathan Demme or something

― gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)

The only way I'll see another Paul Haggis movie is if he writes a script as a result of being carjacked by Martians.

― Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)

his crash review is phenomenal

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:39 (twenty years ago)

I like DePalma too. I just think some critics (starting with Kael) have drastically overrated him.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

although I like how he's one of the few to call "The Sopranos" on being a shit show.

― gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

mission impossible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

My favorite Armond White reviews are the ones where he basically reviews other reviews of the same film.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)

and i also hate paul thomas anderson, albeit not as much as he does.

― gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)

i hate him for impregnating maya rudolph before i could

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)

I haven't seen Mission:Impossible. All I know is that John Voight pulls off a mask of his own face to reveal the Tom Cruise beneath. That sounds good.

― Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

hahahaha

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

Jon Voight is hilarious.

― Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

i love midnight cowboy so much

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

"those damn gideons!"

― gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

hahahaha

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

emilio estevez impaled with a faceful of elevator shaft piping!

― gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

i still would stick vanessa redgrave

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

Voight's real triumph is Anaconda.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

whats the name of dude who plays cia douche - hilarious

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

in which tom cruise saves america by relying on a dirty frenchman and a CIA employee's nausea

― gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

henry czerny!

― gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

voight loses points for angelina but gains for CONRACK

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

as a south carolinian i must rep eternally for pat conroy

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

he specialized in playing CIA douches

― gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

how the fuck did you know cia dudes name

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

"eugene kittridge"

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

pukey cia employee is awesome too - he shd play jimmy corrigan

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

the cast wasn't aware that they were filming the bit where Tom Cruise shows off his sleight of hand trickery to Jean Reno and Reno tells him, "try any of that with me and i'll cut your throat"

― gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

because he pretty much played the same character in clear and present danger!

― gear (gear), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

i want him manning a radar tower in alaska!!! mail him his clothes!!!

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

i thank dude for redeeming the name ethan in the 90s after that dickhead ethan hawke

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

90% of rap cats when i tell em my name - "oh shit like ethan hunt?!?!?!"

― oooh, Friday, 2 December 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

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