Inception (with implanted spoilers)

does anyone say "Pinch Me" in this movie

Someone says "Last night I had a dream about you" and then robots start dancing.

My favorite part was when JGL kissed Ellen Page and did an impromptu dance to Hall & Oates through each recessive dream level.

The guys in the roadster who were chasing them while brandishing wrenches were a weird touch, especially when they kept flipping back and forth between real and hand-drawn.

I liked when Xzibit showed up and told Cillian Murphy he put dreams in his dreams so he could dream while he was dreaming.

yea but when Wilford Brimley showed up driving an ice cream truck in the shower it was a little much

And we will always be together
Forever

"yo dawg you know how you said you like to be an action star in your dreams? Well check out this SKI FORTRESS!!!!!"

this thread is too much of a cluster fuck for me to check; but have we actually discussed the ending?

you mean when we find out he's a replicant?

Or before that, when he finds Gwenyth Paltrow's head in a box?

just watched this - it was pretty good once nolan ditched his sandcastle rulemaking and just focused on the action sequences

like replace the first hour with a 5 minute text scroll and then drop everybody in and it would be a good movie

also how come text search for "dick" only brings up 3 references, none of which are references to philip k. dick :|

like replace the first hour with a 5 minute text scroll

Readily done:

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5557/84445610.jpg

the ending where Leo wakes up in his proper reptilian form from his dream in which he was a pink, hairless monkey.

a seriousface monkey.

Did the top fall?

― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, July 16, 2010 3:26 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark

who cares? pretty transparent attempt by nolan at making you go "hmmm"

Theory:

http://chud.com/articles/articles/24477/1/NEVER-WAKE-UP-THE-MEANING-AND-SECRET-OF-INCEPTION/Page1.html

Don't really buy this but parts of it are fun.

yeah my immediate reaction to the final cut was "ha!" and then "oh jesus do i not want to listen to ppl debating that"

What movie is going to be the next movie to inspire such a thread?

dark knight 3 probably

Did the top fall?

For a second I'm all "What is this, the Skinemax soft porn version?"

they way Leo woke up so suddenly on the plane - without resolving the limbo thing kind of tipped me off something had happened (or not happened). my friend has a theory that this was all Leo's dream and everyone was sent to get him out and overcome the guilt of his wife's death...

if you liked this movie you'll love philip k. dick's ubik which is almost the same exact thing

just watched this - it was pretty good once nolan ditched his sandcastle rulemaking and just focused on the action sequences

like replace the first hour with a 5 minute text scroll and then drop everybody in and it would be a good movie

Disagree. The expository scenes with Cobb and Ariadne were among my favorite parts of the movie. Certainly more so than watching a bunch of anonymous masked skiers firing guns.

if you liked this movie you'll love philip k. dick's ubik which is almost the same exact thing

They've been trying to get that off the ground for a while, wonder if this will provide more impetus. Great book, of course. They can even keep the bit where a character watches a 3-D version of The Lord of the Rings.

Disagree. The expository scenes with Cobb and Ariadne were among my favorite parts of the movie. Certainly more so than watching a bunch of anonymous masked skiers firing guns.

― jaymc, Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

ehh it felt so much like "you can do this...but wait! watch out for...and also! there's this that will happen when..."

I would have liked this movie a lot better if it had started out trying to ground in the audience in reality to help w/ the suspension of disbelief instead of starting out in media res - I never got quite to the point of caring about what happened in the movie, it was like opening up the back of a mechanical watch and seeing what happens as the hand reaches 12

Doesn't starting in medias res lend credence to the theory that the whole thing is a dream? re: that line about never remembering the beginning of a dream

Snowscape: reminded me of CoD4. I thought it was going to be a deliberate gag at expense of games-playing young billionaire waster's subconscious.

― stet, Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:31 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark

hahaha otm, I was waiting for soap to tell me which guys to kill

Doesn't starting in medias res lend credence to the theory that the whole thing is a dream? re: that line about never remembering the beginning of a dream

― Sensational Howard (admrl), Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:32 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark

ayo scott picked up on this and it was one of the best bits. also one of the most meta bits. fascinating shot in that sequence of jgl doing s.thing we don't quite grok. looking fwd to rescreening.

aimless otm up there with the zhuang-zi reference

Speaking of A.O. Scott.

Much else that happens within the film’s packed and hectic 148 minutes — which in third-level dream time is at least a month, and which for some deep slumberers may last forever, or at least feel that way — has occasioned intense and contentious speculation on the Internet. The discourse is marked by the ritualistic incantation of two words that may at this point be redundant: spoiler alert.

So consider yourself warned. But, in the manner of the movie itself, which seems to begin in an uncanny present only to jump abruptly backward in time, let’s cut to a flashback, the kind that in a more literal-minded movie would be established by the words “three weeks earlier.” Remember? It was a more innocent time, when families were flocking to “Toy Story 3.” Back then all that was known of “Inception” was that it was, after months of elliptical “teaser” advertisements and trailers, arriving soon in theaters.

And I fell asleep here.

I got really hazy on the details at the snow palace bit, but is there a possibility that it was all 'real' as presented to us, except for the end bit with Leo waking up on the plane - i.e. he chose to stay with wifey in the deepest level of the dream... and then presumably the rest of them would wake up on the plane in a similar way but we don't see this?

This last bit definitely felt dreamy and not seeing whether the top fell implied to me that this scenario was possible - if it was all a dream then the top/totems are irrelevant, right?

movie should have ended with chris nolan plucking the spinning top from the table, looking into the screen and winking.

with "magic man" playing over the credits

no the entourage theme song

just because it would be cool

that would be kind of meta

i mean, ish. pushing it. borderline. but still basically meta [via e being in leo's irl entourage iirc]

it would just be cool if inception was just a prequel to the new season

it would be cool if they mated inception and the departed and it was about leo trying to incept matt damon while -- oh yeah -- matt damon tries to incept leo

framing a film by starting in media res then filling in the gaps that led up to that point is pretty tiresome to me. i don't think it worked all that well. i was disappointed it turned up in the latest Claire Denis film, though it did work considerably better there.

re: "it was all a dream". people be overthinking this, picking up clues that are too subtle by half. nolan was trying to make a complicated flick that's lucid, not obscure.

dude it's like one of the oldest most elemental storytelling techniques in existence xp

was there any explanation for why the top had to fall over if things were real? like, why couldn't you just dream it falling over?

yeah I feel kinda silly taking this movie at face-value but if it's been established that each dreamer can change the physics of the dreamworld according to their subconscious then how can you be sure of the veracity of your totem... or is it like when you are imagining your totem you are trying to make it do what it won't do in real life

do you find the odyssey tiresome or xp

man now I really wnat to rewatch paprika :(

do you find the odyssey tiresome or xp

― al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:57 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

ehh we pretty much already know the terms of the odyssey cause we read the fucking iliad first - in medias res can be great but not when you have to retconn 50 million things

End credits song shoulda been:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-kVFfKezVo