It is. That and Arthur Lee.
― Sensational Howard (admrl), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)
And Armond White
he genuinely loves Norbit and considers it one of the high points of African American culture.
― orakle-krake (Gukbe), Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Def. a low point for chinese-american culture.
Rasputia: What... the...? What just fell on my car? Mr. Wong: Not what - who! Who just fell on your car? Ching chong ching chong!
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also: the Japanese title for Norbit is "Mad Fat Wife"
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)
You guys' obsession w/ Armond-bashing is as tiresome as your finding Christopher Nolan's blitzkriegs the most fascinating films of our time.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 02:52 (fifteen years ago)
if only i could think of something else tiresome
― be told and get high on coconut (gbx), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 02:53 (fifteen years ago)
Threads aren't revived because of obsessions -- it's fun!
― Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 02:54 (fifteen years ago)
you surely saw how he would review, let’s say, eight movies a week and every week liked probably six of them.
Yeah, I don't think so. Ebert will call shit for being shit, always has.
― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 03:12 (fifteen years ago)
Whoever you read, hold them to a standard, and don’t simply enjoy a critic because they say what you want to hear. But read as many people as you care to, but ask yourself: Are they REALLY talking about what’s on the screen? Do they know the history of this form? Do they have any political awareness? Do they have any spiritual, or moral, or religious awareness even?
This from a man who loves THE CAT IN THE HAT. Has anyone else here seen THE CAT IN THE HAT?
― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 03:16 (fifteen years ago)
Ebert is an intelligent, readable hack who had admitted he dumbed himself down on TV.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 03:17 (fifteen years ago)
please, more critics with religious awareness
― u dad (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 03:19 (fifteen years ago)
That's actually one of his other coherent points.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 03:23 (fifteen years ago)
Seriously, you guys, Mr. 3000 is much better than it needs to be and I highly recommend it.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 03:23 (fifteen years ago)
Unlike smugly cynical humanist ogres Ebert Armond White is a thoughtful, sensitive critic and the best argument for America since David Bowie's transcendent cameo in "Zoolander".
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 03:45 (fifteen years ago)
such as Ebert
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 03:46 (fifteen years ago)
d'oh
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:52 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
At least Armond has probably bothered to watch the movies he criticizes, I'll give him that.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 04:02 (fifteen years ago)
zing!
― San Te, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)
i think Armond's point about review-everything mass media middlebrow film criticism in general isn't a terrible one, though it would probably be better to direct it at, say, Peter Travers. Ebert is probably one of the least offensive examples.
― ryan, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)
physician heal thyself imo
― al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)
it's extremely difficult for physicians to actually heal themselves, the stethescope lead just gets twisted
― Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)
yeah excellent point. and it doesn't help that Armond's bluster often seems borne of a persecution complex for being excluded from that particular clique.
― ryan, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)
I really don't think 'middlebrow critics' are a clique, they just appeal to the Great Unwashed rather than hang out at the malt shop together.
Matt, pay me to see all the movies, or go fuck yourself.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)
the stethescope lead just gets twisted― Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:04 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:04 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
no it doesn't
― be told and get high on coconut (gbx), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)
heh how did i know you'd have a second opinion on that
― Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)
i dunno Morbs he has a point, I could be wrong, but from my experience, generally reviews written by people who were actually in the theatre at the exact time the film was scheduled to show tend to contain a greater level of accuracy then dart throwing by an internet troll.
― San Te, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)
ya there's just a certain ... je ne sais quoi... about having actually seen the art in question before criticizing it that elevates the writing to another level
― al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)
it's like they're reviewing it on a deeper level somehow.
― Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)
And yet we can all criticize Armond White without actually reading him.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)
it would be kinda interesting if someone consistently reviewed movies they hadn't seen for a major publication and then wait to see if anyone ever caught on.
― ryan, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)
i read armond white and then i criticize him
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)
there is, his name is david denby, and yes weve noticed (xp)
― an0n (Lamp), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)
really? Which movies?
― Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)
as Bob Dole said, "Stop lying about my record."
So do you guys think Armond was right about Vincere and Wild Grass?
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)
YOU KNOW, MOVIES THAT DON'T MATTER
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)
everything i've criticized him for, i've read.
― al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)
haha well obviously...
but i was mostly thinking abt his winter's bone review that characterized it as "something new in movies: a 'country-noir' thriller."
― an0n (Lamp), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)
i didn't read his vincere review. i did interview marco bellochio and write a feature about the film for my paper tho. it's possible to think more than one kind of movie is worthwhile.
― al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)
you mean like The Girl on the Train and Despicable Me?
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
not... specifically...?
― al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
those were the exact two types of movies i was thinking it was possible to like
― an0n (Lamp), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)
like, those two, in particular
im not even sure where this is going
― I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)
Those are 2 AW favorites of this year. I'm just as irritated with his automatic-pilot rants as many of you, but he also thinks more than one kind of movie is worthwhile.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)
but you ppl only get upset at his "contrarian" takes on your beloved multiplex must-see-on-the-first-weekend shit, so what else is new
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)
the special thing about a. white is not which movies he likes and dislikes but the offhand sweeping contempt at all the other shills and frauds who don't like and dislike what he does. a man alone!!
xp ha that's some kind of xp right there
― goole, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)
(I'm not talking about s1ocki or even a non-English-language-film-hater like nrq)
Yeah, he is completely tiresome with the Anointed One stuff, no argument
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)
but you ppl only get upset at his "contrarian" takes on your beloved multiplex must-see-on-the-first-weekend shit, so what else is new― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:56 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:56 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
like 'the hurt locker' iirc
― I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:56 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
u mean HIS beloved multiplex must-sees like transformers and GI joe?
― al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
even a non-English-language-film-hater like nrq
i've seen like three foreign-ass films in the last week, son
― I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)
foreign 'ass films' dont count
― al-goreda (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)