Inception (with implanted spoilers)

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that said if i had access to a fantasy dreamworld where i could create whatever i wanted, i sure wouldn't make it a shrine to my old apartments.

al-goreda (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:41 (fifteen years ago)

less fun than A-Team, Twilight, Knight And Day, MacGruber...basically every movie I saw that WASN'T set in the subconscious

da croupier, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:42 (fifteen years ago)

haha I mean Eclipse, I'll take this over New Moon

da croupier, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:43 (fifteen years ago)

"I don't like it, it wasn't like my own dreams!"

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:43 (fifteen years ago)

Leo looking haunted between shootouts >>> Kristen Stewart looking haunted between trees

xpost oh ffs

da croupier, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:44 (fifteen years ago)

it was still fun if u got over your desire to see weird dreams onscreen

This really is key for me here -- the strongest complaints about the film from friends have been "But he didn't do any really crazy shit!" I went in intrigued by the general idea of heist + dream + cast + Nolan and as a thriller it worked just fine for me, so I had no regrets about seeing, I don't know, Sting's blue turtles or whatever.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:45 (fifteen years ago)

btw, they WERE old when they did the train tracks thing; it was just misremembered. A shot late on was quite explicit about this.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:45 (fifteen years ago)

xpost -- About NOT seeing etc. Though I would regret seeing anything to do with Sting these days anyway.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:45 (fifteen years ago)

no WAY this was less fun than fuckin 'knight and day'

al-goreda (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:45 (fifteen years ago)

If you want to see Gilliam, watch Gilliam.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:46 (fifteen years ago)

i owe my friend a ticket to PREDATORS because i thought this movie would be amazing, but it's SO BAD! wtf wtf wtf

exit through the (Tape Store), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:49 (fifteen years ago)

no WAY this was less fun than fuckin 'knight and day'

Did you see it? I know a lot of critics just went "Tom Cruise AIYEEE" but I enjoyed watching the guy battle his demons in a psychotic dreamworld.

da croupier, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:50 (fifteen years ago)

If you want to see Gilliam, watch Gilliam.

But I didn't! I wanted to see an exciting film with a charismatic cast set in dreams! Gilliam only would have given me the "in dreams" part.

da croupier, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:52 (fifteen years ago)

re: gravity being imaginative
it was more imaginative seeing a slowed down time perspective of a van rolling causing the hotel to roll tjan having the movie not play with gravity at all. plus the van dropping off the bridge resulting in a zero gravity hotel scene.

as for "there wasn't enough weird stuff in the dreams" argument I must say that we never saw a dream that hadn't been made by an architect. the limbo stuff was a dream in a sense but it wasn't very random because it had been designed a good bit during Leo's 50 year or longer stay

serious nonsense (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:54 (fifteen years ago)

Meanwhile, nice quick interview with Tom Hardy that went into why he disappeared for a while there.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:55 (fifteen years ago)

On a roffle note, some Wall Street Journal affiliated rich dork invokes the movie. Because it's timely, you see.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:58 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.impawards.com/1984/posters/dreamscape.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 05:59 (fifteen years ago)

DOH!

http://fusedfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/803.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 06:00 (fifteen years ago)

Did Drew Struzan do that or was it just a knockoff?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 06:02 (fifteen years ago)

xpost^Now that's the good shit right there.

But as far as movies where a director with money to burn BLOWS YO MIND and a megastar wrestles with memories of The One That Got Away, this didn't hurt like Vanilla Sky.

da croupier, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 06:02 (fifteen years ago)

So is the consensus that the dream worlds run 4 deep (plunging van, zero-g hotel, snow prison, Saito (or Cobb's) limbo). If so, The Saragossa Manuscript still holds the record for most levels of recursive storytelling, nesting 6 deep once and 5 deep quite a few times. Not a bedtime film, unless you revel in the confusion.

ὑστέρησις (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 06:14 (fifteen years ago)

shameless plug: discussion on this got a little heated on the podcast I co-host. some mild spoilers. review starts around the 15-minute mark.

Simon H., Tuesday, 20 July 2010 06:52 (fifteen years ago)

Part of me agrees with this take - http://chud.com/articles/articles/24477/1/NEVER-WAKE-UP-THE-MEANING-AND-SECRET-OF-INCEPTION/Page1.html

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 07:55 (fifteen years ago)

this movie is like donnie darko: the director's cut except:
-minus atmosphere
-minus intelligent humor (OMFG THAT ONE TERRIBLE JOKE WHERE HE PULLED OUT THE BIGGER GUN?!)
-minus ANY EMOTION WHATSOEVER
-minus awesome soundtrack
-minus imagination
-plus a middling protagonist
-plus a generic hans zimmer score (wtf, stop praising this bullshit)
-plus even more dull explication
-plus juno
-plus (admittedly competent) action sequences

exit through the (Tape Store), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 08:23 (fifteen years ago)

the thing about inception and TDK is that nolan is trying way too hard to come up with something thats a masterpiece/art so its just far too po faced. its not even enjoyable on a pure explosions and heists and CGI level.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

its just a pretty boring, bloated, patience testing movie, admittedly with a few moments of emotional resonance where you care a teeny bit about the characters (well, leo) and some intrigue, though it doesnt really reward you for any of that cos its such a big fucking mess.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 09:37 (fifteen years ago)

If this movie was anything like Donnie Darko I would have set fire to the screen.

orakle-krake (Gukbe), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

wow I expected some of the above arguments from Yahoo! Movies users....

San Te, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:11 (fifteen years ago)

so sad that people don't agree with me : (

caek, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:13 (fifteen years ago)

http://ikbenangie.nl/joomla/images/jmovies/img_pictures/innerspace1.jpg

gato busca pleitos (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:20 (fifteen years ago)

"hay guyz if Inception was like the reel dream world there'd be flying hot dogs and antelopes who sing german operas fuk dis i want my money bak also there was a pred ship in fischers dream"

San Te, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:22 (fifteen years ago)

had a dream last nite i ate amazing food for like a week straight, inception was nothing like that smh

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:24 (fifteen years ago)

"hay guyz if Inception was like the reel dream world there'd be flying hot dogs and antelopes who sing german operas fuk dis i want my money bak also there was a pred ship in fischers dream"

you're right, its wrong to suggest that we can do better than three mundane action movies happening concurrently with Shutter Island.

da croupier, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:30 (fifteen years ago)

If Ridley Scott's Monopoly works out maybe Nolan can do Rubik's Cube: The Movie.

da croupier, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:32 (fifteen years ago)

or maybe he can consolidate 6 sylvester stallone movies into pill form

da croupier, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:34 (fifteen years ago)

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/07/ellen_pages_outfits_in_incepti.html

According to our very informal survey of grad students (er, our friends), neckerchiefs are not currently a staple of the PhD crowd, and yet she dons one in every single scene

except in the hotel and in the snow fortress...

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

guys shes a lesbian

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:37 (fifteen years ago)

I feel like a lot of the people that really hated this movie were predisposed to hating it before they even walked in to the theater.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:40 (fifteen years ago)

i was only predisposed to the idea that it might not make sense.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:40 (fifteen years ago)

I feel like a lot of the people that really liked this movie were predisposed to liking it before they even walked into the theater. HOW YA LIKE THEM APPLES?

da croupier, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)

i liked dark knight and i got up at 7am on a sunday so i could imax it before i left town because i was so excited about it. it's rubbish.

caek, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

this feels like snes vs. mega drive all over again

caek, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Soy6V1eKImA/S-kholQ8OAI/AAAAAAAAADc/FgF2JUKN9gg/s400/discreetcharm1.jpg

^^^ Buñuel should have given Fernando Rey a shotgun.

Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

actually for both this and TDK, i was thinking they would both be great, amazing, huge cinematic experiences, and went on the first day of release for both, but they both left me a bit annoyed.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

It's also kind of sad to see how Nolan is regarded as an "auteur" director of big budget films, when 20 years ago you had someone like Verhoeven whose films were 100% more intelligent and entertaining.

groovemaaan, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

And his movies are long as hell.

Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

so can we quit comparing this to Shutter Island simply because the events were surreal and Leonardo DiCaprio is in it? cuz I can't think of a more lazy comparison.

San Te, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

Okay I loved loved TDK and mostly liked Inception, but certainly don't out Nolan in the "auteur" category. He just makes summer blockbusters I happen to enjoy.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

2 hrs 20 mins=epic

San Te, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)

cuz I can't think of a more lazy comparison.

dude, both movies are about a guy who's bad at his job because he's haunted by guilty visions of his dead crazy wife. It's not just that "events were surreal."

I went in a Dark Knight fan who hoped the film would be entertaining enough to make up for the fact that dream movies can't really "add up". But for all my joshing about dream math vs. dream logic, I think caek best summed it up: if you're going to make a movie about the mind that is kind of centred around a relationship drama then that relationship should be one that faces real problems. use the very clever macguffin to explore human drama, not to explore the very clever macguffin. And if the movie's just about the trickery there's no reason to be so dour about it and not have more fun with your massive palette.

da croupier, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:52 (fifteen years ago)


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