Inception (with implanted spoilers)

Easy -- all the dreamers in the zero gravity hotel are floating around calmly.

oh my god

It's "all a dream" is lazy thinking IMO, and likely a product of our exposure to such lazy writing as depicted on Dallas, Roseanne, other tv shows ad nauseam.

you forgot juicy

haha!

actually maybe "limbo" is actually biggie's pool party from the video...woah....

but wait if it was a dream did he really read Word Up magazine? or...did it exist?

the rappin' duke is actually the kid from 3rd rock from the sun! *passes out*

never thought this thread would take it this far

Meanwhile, a really, really sharp -- and moving -- piece by Hua Hsu here that specifically addresses the question about whether/why Inception is not really about dreams, and whether that's a flaw:

http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2010/07/inception-ghost-town-ghost-faces/60016/

slim thug weighs in:

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http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5sgo28Oqw1qz7f9to1_500.jpg

what was the first tv drama to do the "it was all a dream" conclusion? st elsewhere? or was there something earlier?

Newhart did it in 1990.

...which would have been long after St. Elsewhere.

Both Dallas and St Elsewhere were before that

i feel like st elsewhere did a pretty good job of that kinda denoument, especially when you factor in the whole tommy westphall universe meta theory, but i never saw the last episode of roseanne to see how bad it is or not

newhart was probably the first, but there's been lots

if the whole season was a dream, does that mean the commercials were too?

yes

no

possibly

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5sgo28Oqw1qz7f9to1_500.jpg

Hey guys did you see what slimthug had to say about it?

he summed up my feeligns pretty much exactly

it was too complicated for me its abt having dreams while u r dreaming and i missed parts cause i was sleep so i was lost

Slim Thug wasn't asleep...he was sleep

he wasnt dreaming, he was the-dream

I don't think the end says "it was all a dream" so much as "it was all a film".
haha but also oh yeah.

I don't think the end says "it was all a dream" so much as "i used to read word up magazine".

Great timing all around today guys, good job!

o im late

btw juicy

what if its all not a dream, yeah think abt it

mind blown

http://cdn.videogum.com/files/2010/07/inception_2.jpg

So should I bother seeing this or should I wait until it's inevitably used as the demonstration disc for every Blu-Ray set up in Fry's/Best Buy

More to the point, EVERY Nolan movie I've seen has been disappointing and I can't see how this could be any different.

prob read the thread

I did read the thread. Results hazy, try again?

this is the best movie ever its abt dreams... or maybe NOT

reception doesn't seem miles better than Dark Knight, maybe worse - so if you didn't like that, skip it?

all joking aside it was pretty rad, they wore beautiful clothes and went into dreams

it was better than dark knight, it was better than all his movies, i think no prob

Don't know that I'd go that far; I thought it was on par with "The Prestige" but not quite as involving as "Memento" or "The Dark Knight".

i dunno how the results are hazy in this thread, there's been a pretty overwhelmingly positive response, it has mostly varied in the degrees of positivity. there've been a few negatives but then what would an ilxor thread be etc etc...

Can I ask a dumb question? Is the beach where the movie starts a level-4 dream, or is it just a level-4 dream later in the movie? Does Leo come up through the levels at the beginning? Or is i just that level 4 during the main sequence is Leo's head? What the fuck? That's all.

I just interpreted the opening as a purely cinematic thing, where they show you a scene from the end, then loop back to the beginning and show you how it ties in later

the beach is level 4; that's the point where Leo is chasing after Ken Watanabe's character and then the story winds back to tell you how he got there

xpost: ya exactly, it's kind of disorienting when they do out-of-sequence movie tricks in a movie where you kind of can't take anything you see at face value, lol

i thought it was about as good as the dark knight and memento and nowhere near as good as the prestige

the prestige was pretty sweet, i forgot abt that

you know whats a dope movie harsh times

i dunno how the results are hazy in this thread, there's been a pretty overwhelmingly positive response, it has mostly varied in the degrees of positivity. there've been a few negatives but then what would an ilxor thread be etc etc...

I dunno. I can't help but get a "Nolan gets a free pass because of Dark Knight" Harry Knowles-style positivity.

It's just annoying because I should like Nolan a lot, but all of his movies have ultimately been disappointing - especially after a second viewing. (I take back all my previous positive comments on The Prestige after trying to watch it again)