Inception (with implanted spoilers)

O WATE SORRY FOR NOT SAYING *SPOILER* GUYS...for those of u who don't no how roseanne ended yet :( :( :(

Damn you, San Te!

the last paragraph of that interview encapsulates almost exactly how I felt about the movie

It's a great point to bring up, isn't it? I remember wondering about that a bit in that brief few seconds between when he leaves the top behind him and the cut to black, then all of a sudden my mind was elsewhere...

dan, i'll trust your explanation because yr smart and went to harvard

Correct

Thank god. Because otherwise that whole sequence made me feel like I'd been on the gin all afternoon ("wait, he's now bundling them up in electrical flex, whaaaa?"), the amount I understood it. Let alone that the explosives would just have torn the liftcar to pieces rather than propelling it so daintily. As you say, "movie handwaving", still loved this film.

xp.

A banal espionage plot, lots of people running around with guns, and DiCaprio as usual barely convincing as an adult. Reminded me a lot of that forgotten J-Lo pic The Gift, only that one was at least boring in a stylized way. I guess it's provoking "discussion" among people who don't usually go to movies because, like The Celestine Prophecy and The Alchemist, the movie offers a taste of something Deep and Spiritual along with the usual thrills.

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where are these plebian, non-moviegoing-people "discussions" of how Deep and Spiritual this movie is? not on this thread.

there's really nothing spiritual in this movie AFAICT. fuckin' tomb raider movies are more spiritual.

i mean there's a lot of ways nolan COULD have fudged it with some lame spirituality, like introducing some ambiguity about whether marion cotillard's character was 'real,' like a ghost inhabiting leo's mind, but he dismisses that pretty soundly and thank god for that

yeah if anything, this movie is super clinical (one of the things I really liked about it)

the threat is real, the growth is real, the adversary is real

wait who is the adversary

a bunch of faceless, nameless projections? his crazy dead wife?

where the fuck is robert englund when u need him

I don't think the end says "it was all a dream" so much as "it was all a film". Which I think Nolan does very, very well, and why I think he's a great film-maker. I don't think this has ANYTHING in common with The Alchemist at all.

maybe Nolan leaving the audience without seeing the ending, as well as Leo (who abandons the totem to go see his kids) is his way of saying "Leo doesn't have to be paranoid anymore and can trust reality without looking at his totem".

But yea this movie is one definitely that was worth seeing twice.

how come the bus makes the hotel zero gravity but the zero gravity has no effect on the snow layer?

Easy -- all the dreamers in the zero gravity hotel are floating around calmly.

oh my god

It's "all a dream" is lazy thinking IMO, and likely a product of our exposure to such lazy writing as depicted on Dallas, Roseanne, other tv shows ad nauseam.

you forgot juicy

haha!

actually maybe "limbo" is actually biggie's pool party from the video...woah....

but wait if it was a dream did he really read Word Up magazine? or...did it exist?

the rappin' duke is actually the kid from 3rd rock from the sun! *passes out*

never thought this thread would take it this far

Meanwhile, a really, really sharp -- and moving -- piece by Hua Hsu here that specifically addresses the question about whether/why Inception is not really about dreams, and whether that's a flaw:

http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2010/07/inception-ghost-town-ghost-faces/60016/

slim thug weighs in:

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5sgo28Oqw1qz7f9to1_500.jpg

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5sgo28Oqw1qz7f9to1_500.jpg

what was the first tv drama to do the "it was all a dream" conclusion? st elsewhere? or was there something earlier?

Newhart did it in 1990.

...which would have been long after St. Elsewhere.

Both Dallas and St Elsewhere were before that

i feel like st elsewhere did a pretty good job of that kinda denoument, especially when you factor in the whole tommy westphall universe meta theory, but i never saw the last episode of roseanne to see how bad it is or not

newhart was probably the first, but there's been lots

if the whole season was a dream, does that mean the commercials were too?

yes

no

possibly

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5sgo28Oqw1qz7f9to1_500.jpg

Hey guys did you see what slimthug had to say about it?

he summed up my feeligns pretty much exactly

it was too complicated for me its abt having dreams while u r dreaming and i missed parts cause i was sleep so i was lost

Slim Thug wasn't asleep...he was sleep

he wasnt dreaming, he was the-dream

I don't think the end says "it was all a dream" so much as "it was all a film".
haha but also oh yeah.

I don't think the end says "it was all a dream" so much as "i used to read word up magazine".

Great timing all around today guys, good job!

o im late

btw juicy

what if its all not a dream, yeah think abt it

mind blown

http://cdn.videogum.com/files/2010/07/inception_2.jpg

So should I bother seeing this or should I wait until it's inevitably used as the demonstration disc for every Blu-Ray set up in Fry's/Best Buy

More to the point, EVERY Nolan movie I've seen has been disappointing and I can't see how this could be any different.

prob read the thread