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hate to say it, but in school you are also rewarded for turning your work in on time and being productive. not in the same way, but it's all part of the game.

the only reason i said you should get a new job is that you don't feel rewarded by yours. that's all.

I'm a "hobbyist" too but I still get more satisfaction out of doing a decent job with creative stuff than doing well at work.

Lord help me if my greatest achievements have anything to do with pushing manuscripts through peer review.

I'm a hobbyist with the band, with my music criticism, and with my crossword puzzle constructing -- all of which add up to more satisfaction than I usually receive from what I do at work.

I will say, though, that I'm a good deal more motivated (and thus satisfied) at work when I'm working on the almanac, since I'm the supervisor on that project and I get to make decisions and go to meetings and stuff.

I guess it can be sort of satisfying to get the really predictable, direct, immediate response/validation that a grade provides.

One of my art professors addressed this B/C he felt that his criticisms were unappreciated; he yelled something along the lines of, You are lucky to get my criticism. "You think the world's going to give a shit that you like to be creative? You're going to work and work and most of the time be lucky if you are met with indifference."

In that case you might as well drink, I guess. Wow. What a graceless way to put what may or may not be a "basic" truth.

John, isn't working on the almanac a sort of advancement?

i would like to work on some armagnac

Yeah, it is, kind of! And I did get a pay raise that seemed like it was related to that. Although I was never sure if I got handed that assignment because I did good work or whether it was because I made an offhanded comment about how much I liked the project.

I thought his speech/tirade was sort of bosltering and a wake-up call to namby-pamby artistes who got offended when he called their amateur drawings "amateur drawings."

I imagine that you are really good at your job and you are reaping benefits from being good at it.

Hahahah yes I suppose I am far far underestimating the effects of namby-pamby art students. Good point.

Yeah, I respect Jesse's prof's statement.

EZ's greatest achievement just came up on shuffle in my iTunes... that achievement being his cover of "Word Up".

Closely tied with my four seconds in Mallrats.

I was also an extra in In The Line of Duty, a TV movie starring Arkin and Turturro. Adam Arkin and Nicholas Turturro, that is.

haha

Adam Arkin is great!

"You are lucky to get my criticism. You think the world's going to give a shit that you like to be creative? You're going to work and work and most of the time be lucky if you are met with indifference."

http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/img/90x94/characters/oliver.jpg

Sorry, that's the only picture of that dude I could find.

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/alec-baldwin-glengarry-glen-ross.jpg

"You are lucky to get my criticism. You think the world's going to give a shit that you like to be creative? You're going to work and work and most of the time be lucky if you are met with indifference."

in any case, none of the students i was inputting grades for got lower than an A-. they're turning in final projects tomorrow, and he wanted to do the grades today so he was like "just input As for everyone as their final project" which is 20% of the total grade! i wanted to call them all and say "don't do an all-nighter! anything you turn in will be fine!"

xpost-- ha, there's a lot of AIDA in the book i'm working on.

If I can do/see one thing during the day Sunday, what should it be?

I guess it bears mentioning that that professor was reacting to a couple young students who were upset and whiny because the professor pointed out flaws and mistakes in their drawings. Their argument was, "It's art, so how dare you tell me it's wrong?" And his responsewas OTM: "What we are doing here is not art, but exercises that will facilitate the production of art," followed by other stuff including what I quoted above.

I thought he was an awesome teacher, and he is/was our friend Brian's closest mentor.

Oh, here he is http://www.michaelananian.com/

I'm going to remember that line. Thanks.

Sorry I can't give you much Sunday advice. I would probably go window shopping.

The top of the Hancock Tower is my standby for tourists--you get a great view for the cost of a drink, which costs about the same as entrance to the Sears Tower observation deck.

Sundar, name three general things you are interested in or like to do when on vacation and we'll give you the must-do. wouldn't want to send a museum-lover to the hideout to see shellac this sunday at 11 a.m.

Fair point. I'll probably be live music-ed out. Museums/galleries/films are good. Interesting restaurants, places to try microbrews/imports. Interesting architectural sights. I don't really know anything about the Midwest (though, according to Michael Moore, it starts at Buffalo.)

You could take the green line out to oak park and tour frank lloyd wright's home and studio and then go to the hopleaf on sunday night for beers and a pail of mussels.

Oh and in between see 'too much light makes the baby go blind' at 7 p.m. and when it's over at 8 go around the corner to the hopleaf. That would be a fine sunday.

Or you could reverse those, since there's no better time to be at Hopleaf than Sunday in the late afternoon.

Man, neither "I'm Not There" nor "The Mist" are going to fit into my schedule this afternoon. Should I go see "Margot at the Wedding" instead? Not sure if I'm in the mood for an uncomfortable movie, but I liked "The Squid and the Whale" a lot, so maybe I should? Alternative is sitting in a coffeeshop and reading for like three hours at least. Need to occupy myself in Evanston between 3ish and 6:45.

what other movies are playing?

Why do you have free time in Evanston for that long?

*psst dude Margot at the wedding is GREAT*

man, i stayed up waaaay too late working on that mojito remix. it's pretty much done, i just have to mix it.

also, i bought that turntable from a jazz saxophonist/philosophy major and rediscovered some records. who knew that my dad had the best of Steely Dan on vinyl!

Nick?

Nickie?

Read the thread.

My work party is in Evanston tonight and I don't want to drive home and then drive back out to Evanston later so I'm just hanging out here all day.

yeah maybe i'll just check out margot at the wedding

Dan? Danny?

Shhhh.

nick, we're going to see "i'm not there" at 4:30 in evanston, if you want to come along? i don't know how long it is, but if it's short enough you're welcome to.

you can also come to my office and steal a crispy oatmeal cookie or two (they're supposed to be that way, they're not just burned). i brought a whole bag for the movies, inspired by the baking done by you and sarah.

i liked "margot at the wedding" but i probably wouldn't go see it just before enforced social activities with work people...it kind of made me hate people, you know?

dang, "i'm not there" is what i really want to see but assuming it's 2 hrs long and there will be previews too, it's cutting it pretty close for me to get to the shindig on time

Fuck the holidays. I hate having divorced parents. If I get one more e-mail or phone call from one of my parents about how I'm not spending a fair amount of time with them over the other, I'm going to say 'fuck it' and not go see them at all. It's not a fucking competition.

I'm Not There is 2:15.

I mean 2 hr 15 min.

:(

j/v/c, can't you just not see them? i know it's easier said than done, but we didn't want to get into a pattern of having to alternate parents and years, so just said we're on our own this christmas. my mom was surprisingly accepting of this, although now we've agreed to come over for a couple days the weekend before, and it's basically christmas, just early...

dang, that movie is long! i'm not good with movies over 2 hours, glad i brought cookies and edamame to keep me from getting hungry!